steamfan1211

While looking through my photo's for Gondola Scrap loads I found these two taken from Pepper Ave, at Colton, CA. They show two gondolas loaded with tin cans. I think they would make an excellent load but I can't figure out how to make them in HO. Any ideas. Perhaps someone has already done it.

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Steve Watson SteveWatson

Beading for cans?

If you're thinking of modelling the cans using scale-size cylinders, try looking in the beading section of a craft store. I haven't actually measured them or anything, but some of that stuff is pretty small.

 

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jeffshultz

Shredder confetti?

I have to admit, when I saw that first photo my immediate thought was that it looked like the confetti that comes off a shredder. Another thought would be painted small diameter wire cut into very small chunks.

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c-and-s-fan

Shredded aluminum foil works

There was an article in the NMRA's magazine The Bulletin (before it was called Scale Rails) that covered this very subject.  There is also a book called Open Loads (also published by the NMRA I think) that has the article in it.

Basically you shred aluminum foil in a blender, then glue to some kind of form.  For a dump load like this make the base out of foam and glue the shredded foil to the form in as many layers as it takes.  You can also make a load of baled scrap by using plastic tubing for an armature and gluing the foil to it.  This is the method covered in the articles mentioned above.

Sources for the foil include basic aluminum foil as well as some yummy alternatives.  The foil that wraps Hershey's Kisses is perfect for this, as are the foil protective seals on yogurt containers.  With the Kisses, if you buy them around Christmas, they come wrapped in red and green.  If you can find red, green, blue and gold foil, that should give you a pretty good mix.

You can buy a used blender at a garage sale for $5 or less.  Have fun with your project and let us see the results.

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DCSnr

Scrap Cans

For years I have been attaching aluminim foil to the wall at the side of my spray booth, when I test the flow of paint before painting or getting rid of excess paint after painting I spray the foil. When the foil is covered in a variety of colors i put it in an old blender and it makes an ideal scrap load.

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steamfan1211

Re Beading for cans

I will go and check out the local craft store. I t\like the idea on some sort of bead. It would give that cylindrical look and if I can find them small enough they could work well.

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ratled

Wire Sheathing

Paul Scoles in his DVD series ( http://www.paulscoles.com/) used the sheathing from various sizes of wire.  He cut them in into small sections (a couple of inches) and then pulled the wire out leaving the sheathing.  He would then cut the sheathing into "can size" pieces.  Painted silver, brown and black and hit with a quick weathering wash they looked pretty good. 

Might be a pain to do car loads but if you used it with something else it might look convincing.... say something like Charlies rusted tie plate treatment in the last issue of MRH and tweaked to look more like flatten cans.  You could add a few of the of  Paul style cans to sell the illusion.  Placed on a painted foam insert (like Charlie did for some coal loads) and they would be removable too. Anyway just a thought

Steve

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joef

Styrene rod and a chopper

You could get yourself some 0.030 thousandths styrene rod and set a chopper to clip off pieces a scale 6" long and then go to town.

Once you have a few thousand of these small round nibs, then I'd put them in some various colors of paint bath using a cheap tea strainer and then set them out to dry.

Then glue a random mix of the various colors to some contoured foam using Charlie's recent Scenery Scene on making open top car loads (with a metal washer included so you can pull the load out of the car easily with a magnet).

I would think this should work - and if someone would actually try it and take a few nice photos of the process and write maybe 300 words or so of explanation, you'll have a nice scenery scene piece that could net you $100 or more. (hint, hint - we are always looking for more article submissions)

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bkempins

They look like they are

They look like they are sorted by type or color? Is that right?

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joef

Yes, looks like

Yes, they look like they are sorted by type.

Looking a little closer, it might actually make sense to paint the rod, THEN run it through the chopper, since the ends tend to be unpainted - only the sides have color.

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Scarpia

Sorted

I'd hazard a guess that that they were sorted for some reason by the collection company, but the destination doesn't care.  Otherwise, wouldn't they be sorted into different cars?

Following Joe's thoughts, why not just cut the rod, glue it to the base, prime one pile one color, the other another, and than drybrush and or wash color, shine, and rust on?


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Wolfgang

candy wrapper

shtreddered candy wrapper

at my Diamond Valley scrap yard.

Wolfgang

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Russ Bellinis

Those are not "tin cans."

The ones at the far end of the first gon are very recognizable as Cocoa Cola, so I would  guess that those are aluminum soft drink cans.  Why make this point?  Aluminum does not rust like iron.  It does turn the grey color of aluminum oxide, but it takes long enough for aluminum to do that that it has probably already been returned to the plant for reprocessing before it starts to oxidize significantly.

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Rio Grande Dan

Wolfgang you have some great ideas

Do you use any whole candy wrapper on just the colored aluminum inner wrappers from chocolate bars? What do you use to chop them up.

Dan

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Wolfgang

coffee grinder

That's not my idea, I found it in an old NMRA Bulletin, Nov 1997 by Tom Persoon.

I use only the aluminium type wrapping parts. And I chop them in an old coffee grinder. You need an old one or you will get some trouble.

Wolfgang

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Rio Grande Dan

Thanks for the fast reply Wolfgang

I happen to have an old Coffee Grinder as we just got a new one 2 weeks ago so, the old one should work great for scrap shredding.

I also have some red and white 22 gauge wire i can cut down to simulate Coca Cola cans.

Dan

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steamfan1211

Sorted

Not sure that they would be sorted intentionally. Maybe just loaded by the bin load which has been collected from differnt companies.

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CSX railfan

Blender, anyone?

 Would an old blender work for this? I've been trying my hardest to find an old coffee grinder, but it's been a bust for about the past year (I've tried yardsales, thrift shops, and everything else I could think of. No luck with the grinder.)

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Rio Grande Dan

In the U.S.A. Walmart sells Hand held Coffee Grinders

I was looking for a new Coffee Grinder in a number of Cooking Stores that sell Pots and Pans and other Kitchen stuff.

My wife said Walmart sells about 4 different types for under $20.00 so I picked up a Black & Decker Coffee Grinder for $17.56 and retired my old one the last weekend of July. I can use the old one for gringding foam, Dry weeds, sticks and Candy wrapers.

The House ware Dept in Walmart if you have one and they sell Coffee Grinders Cheep and so does K-Mart if you have one of those Department stores.

Dan

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