JWhite

I got back into model railroading after a 35 year break about 8 years ago when I retired the first time.  I was well into the dream, design and buy stuff phase when I let them talk me into going back to work for a few years and for three years I basically just dreamed about a layout and bought things.  I built some models.

I chose Centralia because it's close to where I live so in 30 minutes I can visit what's left of the huge railroad operation that was once there.  It was served by 4 railroads, the IC who had a huge operation there, a 48 stall round house and a large car shop where they built rolling stock for themselves and other railroads. The CB&Q who had a large yard, the Southern who went through town and the Missouri and Illinois a MOPAC subsidiary.  All four railroads ran next to each other through the center of town with the Mike and Ike using IC trackage. I can run IC and CB&Q steam and first generation diesels and Southern and M&I diesels and both the CB&Q and M&I used motorcars for their passenger service to Centralia.

There was a lot of industry in Centralia then.  Two wholesale grocers, 3 lumber yards that were served by rail, Hollywood Brands Candy Company, a petroleum transload terminal where oil from the wells in the area was loaded onto tank cars and several oil field supply and fabrication companies.  The IC, CB&Q and M&I all had passenger and freight depots in town at that time.

I have a 30' x 40' building on my property with a concrete floor at will be finished on the inside with heat and AC this Spring. I have designed the layout using the TOMA method and I started working on the first modules this past year.  I will move it out of the basement and into the building when the interior of the building is finished.

The first two modules 6' x 4' and 6' x 4' tapering to 1' make up an industrial area where the Illinois Central freight house and three small industries Kohl and Meyer Wholesale grocers, CA Glore Lumber Company and a Central Illinois Public Service ice plant are located.  There is also an IC boiler plant that provided steam heat for the IC passenger depot, the IC freight house and 3 short coach yard tracks where coaches were spotted waiting on connections with other trains.

I used a 1949 IC track chart and property map (Centralia, like many of the towns on the IC mainline was laid out by the railroad and the railroad at one time owned most of the land in town.) and a 1938 Sanborn Insurance map.  I started with a full size cardboard mock up seen here in my family room.

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After I negotiated an agreement to use some space in the unfinished portion of the basement, I started construction of the first two modules.  1x4 open grid bench work with 5/8" plywood and 2 sheets of 1 inch (I was unable to buy 2" in this area) foam on top.

The track was laid, wired, tested and painted.  I painted the foam with a latex flat tan and am in the process of laying down the streets and concrete pad areas.  I am using 2mm black craft foam. The concrete in this area has a tan tint to it. I modeled this by spraying the craft foam that models concrete with Rustoleum light gray auto primer and then using a wash of thinned tan latex.  I started to use Tamiya deck tan but at $5.98 a bottle I thought I'd try the latex paint.  I applied the tan with a sponge and I'm satisfied with how it looks.  It does look better in person then in the photos.

I'm not as happy with the as[halt.  I used progressively lighter grays on the black foam and I think it's too light.  Going to try a darker wash to see if I can tone it down.

 

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Prototype photos and track plans of the area:

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SO far the research has been fun but frustrating.  I am amazed at how much information isn't available about things a mere 60 years ago.  I've got the area bracketed in photos.  I have a lot from before 1955 and a lot after, but not many in 1955.  This has resulted in some guesswork in what to model.

I hope to update this blog with photos and descriptions as it comes together.

 

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John Winter

JWhite...

love the research photos. Looks like you have a good start on your layout. We still need to get together!   John

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mecovey

looking forward to more posts

I'll be watching with great interest. My grandfather was a minister in Centralia when the mine caved in. He preached several funerals for miners who were members of his church. You mentioned you live about 30 miles from Centralia...Salem?

 

Mike Covey

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JWhite

John, I'm looking forward to

John,

I'm looking forward to seeing your layout.  I have found myself buying photos and slides of locomotives and cars just for what's in the background.  The good people at the museum in Centralia have been extremely helpful giving me copies of anything they had that I needed. Coincidentally, they are located in the old Kohl and Meyer Wholesale Grocery building which will be on the module I'm building now.

Unfortunately very little remains of the huge IC operation in town.  Part of the roundhouse is still standing, but it's covered in metal siding, the concrete coaling tower is still there and a couple of the brick buildings associated with the car shops still exist.

In some ways prototype modeling is easier then freelancing, but then again it has it's compromises.  Things like what color brick was a building when all you have are black and white photos.  Or when you have color photos taken over different eras and that show different shades of red on the brick.

Mike,

I actually live north of Salem near Alma.  The old IC mainline is 100 yards from my front door.

Jeff White

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hairdog

Centralia

My dad was a scale inspector for the IC and I went down to the yard very often. I lived on Cheery street by Valley Steel and all that area from Broadway south and from Locust St. West was my stomping grounds. I too have been thinking of building a layout of Centralia and doing research of the areas I don't remember. the photo of the depot is great, you can see a lot of the buildings like the community center, the bank, the show, the old Krogers and the old water tower which is still standing. I was sitting by the Broadway crossing when they moved the 2500 off the main line for its trip out to the park where it stands now. If you should need information about the area I would be more than happy to help out.

 

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JWhite

Thanks hairdog! I will take

Thanks hairdog! I will take any help that I can get and I'll be happy to share anything I have with you.

My email is jrwhite@midwest.net

Jeff

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BOK

Jeff, I didn't do much

Jeff, I didn't do much switching in Centralia when I began my first railroad job as a young, IC, brakeman out of Champaign  in the 60s but I did spend time there as it one of my away from home terminals and as an extra board brakeman forced to cover the Centralia/Mattoon road switcher occasionally.

I recall working the job one time with both an alcoholic engineer and conductor who  hated each other behind their backs but were "friendly" face to face. If you worked as the head brakeman, riding the engine all the engineer could complain about was how bad the conductor handled his work. If you worked as the flagman riding the caboose all the conductor would do is be-rate the engineer and his "lack" of abilities.

It was tough working that job hearing all the negative conversation but it all changed one night when both the engineer and conductor "buried their differences over a bottle", resulting in them becoming, good friends and quite drunk. Come the next morning and I am supposed to meet the train and climb aboard at the Centralia depot. However, as the local approached me and I signaled him to slow down for me to get on... he just kept on rolling toward the crossing! As the engines passed, I threw my grip up on the steps of the lead unit and then ran along side the second unit until I was able to board it and work my way up to the front. When I opened the engineer's door to enter the lead unit the engineer turned around surprised and said "Where did you come from?" I told him I was trying to getting him to slow down but he didn't. A that point, he passed out and slumped over the throttle.

Now it was time for the other brakeman and I to "swing into action".  Because the conductor was already passed out in the caboose on one of the bunks we came up with a plan. Because the brakeman had been practicing to become an engineer (this was before federal,engineer licensing) and could handle the locomotive I became the conductor. We moved the engineer out of his seat to the head brakeman's and ran the train north out of town until it was hidden behind some brush where we stopped and took the engineer off the unit, I held him up until the brakeman moved the train ahead to the caboose where I helped get him into it "sleep it off". We, then, the brakeman and I became one of the IC's first "two man crews".  I am sure that this was a fairly, normal, situation back in those days of rampant alcoholism on the rails and it encouraged the covering up of such behavior rather than dealing with it. 

I do remember other bits and pieces about Centralia. The old, crew, hotel next to the IC, Q, M&I, and Sou. tracks and the trains which ran by there at all hours while disturbing our rest. I also remember the large, old IC roundhouse, car shops, rip track and ice house along with the Hollywood Candy plant.

Sorry if I bored you with my ramblings.

Barry 

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JWhite

Barry, Your "ramblings"

Barry,

Your "ramblings" aren't boring at all. I find it fascinating. You just gave me some interesting IC Centralia information when you spoke about staying in the hotel across from the depot.  My 1949 track chart shows a hotel for the crews down near the yard office. I had assumed that it lasted through the era I model, but now I'm thinking maybe it didn't.

Your comments about drinking on the job in that era echo what a friend who worked for the IC in Memphis and the Big Four in East St Louis in the 60s has told me. 

I would be very interested in any other recollections you would share.

 

Jeff

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BOK

Jeff, if you're interested in

Jeff, if you're interested in another tale from the IC Centralia yards you check out the latest issue, Vol.18, issue 1, of Classic Trains which includes a story I wrote for them. It's about when I had to take some IC, E units (former passenger engines) off SE-1 back to the roundhouse late one summer night and the "challenges" which occurred in doing so.

The crew hotel I spoke of was on the north end of town and the conductor from south bound trains would bail off the caboose entering town and arrange to get our rooms while the rest of the crew took the train into the yard and tied up sometimes taking power to the house. This old hotel had the benefit of being air conditioned (window units) and was relatively clean which was a bonus from many of the old railroad flop houses we stayed in. At one time it had been a classy, downtown, hotel but by the time we started staying there it was home to some low income retired folks and railroaders. Now days I would bet the CN, BNSF and NS crews likely stay in a better place but for us it was quite an improvement and appreciated. It was also close to a nearby cafe which served good food,lots of it and had pretty waittress which were "hit on" regularly by most rails when they ate there. in addition to your meal most guys would also a large sandwich and maybe a piece of pie to go for the long trip, home.

Home. As a railroader you spent 50% of your life living away from home which could be lonely and dangerous. But when you were called for the train that would take you HOME it was always something to look forward to.

Barry

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JWhite

Thanks Barry, I'll pick up

Thanks Barry, I'll pick up that issue.

Jeff

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