Greg Williams GregW66

I've settled on Peco Code 83 flex for my track and hand laid turnouts using PC board ties and constructing over a template. I've made a few in code 100 successfully. I have no Code 83 rail on hand and am assuming I can simply strip the rail from the Peco Code 83 flex to hand lay the turnouts. 

Anyone see any reason why that wouldn't work? Do I need to buy Code 83 rail separately?

GregW66

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David Husman dave1905

Rail

That will work but may be more expensive if you are going to build a bunch of turnouts. 

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steamhog

same rail for turnouts

I think it's always a good idea to be consistent with rail manufacturer.  There are subtle variations. 

Page 43 of the August 2016 issue has a comparison picture of 3 manufacturers.  For example, the difference in web thickness can be problematic for rail joiners. 

  http://mrhpub.com/2016-08-aug/online/  

There's lots more info in "Make It Run Like A Dream".

http://store.mrhmag.com/store/p131/ebook/run-like-a-dream-trackwork

 

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Neil Erickson NeilEr

I did the same

When I moved from HO to On30 the Code 100 and 83 flex track didn't look right so I striped the rail from the ties, cleaned them up with steel wool, and laied them on wood and pc board ties. If you have the rail then I don't see any problems. One advantage of having dead rails is that I could have used old brass rail.

Learning to lay your own takes some time but I take the process in bites so never spend too long at the desk. Before breakfast was my normal 10-20 minutes a day and before long had quite a few done. Think about controls while at the workbench (or kitchen table in my case) so you have holes drilled in throw bars where you want them and wires soldered to frogs when it is easier to do.

I've been following your design and look forward to seeing what can be done in a more compact space.

Neil Erickson, Hawai’i 

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Greg Williams GregW66

@Dave

Only need about 12 turnouts so not too worried. Easier than trying to source Code 83 rail up here in Canada.

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ctxmf74

buy flextrack or bare rail?

  The main advantage of Peco to me is the turnouts so if handlaying them I might go  with Micro Engineering or Atlas flextrack depending on which was cheaper from my source. As for flextrack or bare rail you can do a search for bare rail and compare it to the track, ripping the track apart only takes a few minutes so I wouldn't worry about that aspect......DaveB

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ErieMan47

Code 83 rail in Canada

Hi Greg- Fast Tracks, based in Canada, sells Microengineering code 83 rail.  You can even pay in Loonies.

http://www.handlaidtrack.com/rail

Dennis

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Greg Williams GregW66

@Dave

My supplier has Peco Code 83 $0.83 cheaper than Atlas Code 83. That's nearly $40 for the 45 pieces I intend to order. 

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Superintendent - Eastern Canada Division - NMRA
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Greg Williams GregW66

@Dennis

I'll look into that, thank you!

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Superintendent - Eastern Canada Division - NMRA
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Greg Williams GregW66

Generosity

I picked up a parcel at the mailbox today from Neil Erickson. It contained numerous pieces of short but usable Code 83 rail. Hope to start turnout construction Sunday afternoon. 

Thanks, Neil, you are a kind and generous gentleman.

Greg Williams
Superintendent - Eastern Canada Division - NMRA
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Neil Erickson NeilEr

Great news!

@Greg - you are most welcome. 

An elderly gentleman asked me to help demolish his layout in 2010. It was a large 16' x 24' purpose built structure for the layout and was filled with trains and track. He kept the engines, sold the rolling stock and donated a bunch to our local museum where I'd donated a small layout. The plywood roadbed and ballast ballast in waterproof glue made it nearly impossible to save the switches and track but I did strip a lot of rail from those pieces and built my layout with those as much as possible. 

I know that he would be glad you can use some of the railroad as much as I am happy to share. To be honest, I wish we had a way to share tools online here as the point and stock form tools from Fasttracks are a real time saver and help create very nice and consistent components. Consider purchasing the pair. They sold on EBay  today with only one bid.

A good bastard file is also a good investment. Some have used a bench grinder but a few few swipes is all that is needed with a sharp file. Making the parts is surprisingly fast. You will get the hang of soldering with a little flux and find it relaxing if taken in short bites (at least that's how I do it - MC is really fast at this).

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joef

Not all rail is created equal

Peco and Atlas code 83 rail may be the same height but the rail profile is radically different. Atlas has a much wider railhead and a wider railbase so code 100 rail joiners work better and the railhead between code 83 and code 100 Atlas track lines up better. Peco code 83 rail has a much finer profile and won't align with Atlas code 83 rail without a lot of fiddling, adjusting rail joiners, soldering joints to keep things aligned, etc. Best is to pick one brand of rail / track and stick with it. For me, that's MicroEngineering rail and track.

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