chuck68

When wiring your bus wires and feeder wires, I'm using # 14 for the bus and # 18 single strand copper wire for my feeders. Do you think that #18 is a good size or should I go #16. I heard that #18 may create too much resistance because it's small, true but still it's a copper wire which is a good conductor in itself and the feeders are short. I use suitcase connectors to connect the feeders to the bus.

What do you think ?

Chuck

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Ken Glover kfglover

Search is your friend.

Search for "feeder wires" in the search box in the upper right of any forum page and you will find a long list of discussions related to feeders. 

This one is a good start:

https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/feeder-wire-gauge-recommendations-12187888

The Wiring for DCC is a great resource. (I am assuming you intend to use DCC)

 

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Selector

Any wire capable of

Any wire capable of delivering robust voltage to the rails will do, so 18 gauge is fine.  I prefer thinner wire, say in the 22 gauge range.  Just keep them short, and use them frequently.  Once, I used longish 4' 22 gauge feeders at one end of a 6' bridge that afforded access to a five-track staging yard off the layout. There was no power provision for any of the staging; it all came from that distant pair of 4' feeders.  I felt there was no discernible problem.  My locos there all responded to inputs from the throttles.

I don't think you'd find many here enthusiastic about that setup, and I could only draw on this one instance for experience to refute them.  I might just have been on the very edge of suitability.  So, if you can keep your feeders short, that's a good rule.  Those 18 gauge wires should be good for at least 4' in length.

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Pelsea

Once upon a time...

I once tested my layout with an entire 100 ft reel of 24 awg cat5 cable as a feeder. There was no observable difference between loco performance that way and with a direct connection via 18 awg. The voltage drop was not measurable on my Fluke meter.

I'm not saying do that, it was just a trial, but no one has ever reported problems due to short 24 or 22 awg feeders. The last inch of wire (in your loco) is 30 awg.

pqe

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Mike mayor79

Wow, 18 seems huge for track

Wow, 18 seems huge for track feeders, let alone 16.  I used 22 on mine with no problems, plus it dissapears against the rails once painted.  I think everyone worrys way too much about voltage drop on layouts anyway.  Ive never sen a good technical argument for large track bus or large feeders anyway.

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Sugar Beet Guy

24 Gauge is Fine

My whole layout uses 24 awg feeders from cat5 cable.  Easy to solder to the rails.  No problems whatsoever.

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Kevin Rowbotham

18 is what I am using...

Yes, it is quite heavy for feeders in my opinion.  Lighter wire will be easier to work with and solder to rails.  It will also be easier to hide next to the rail.  I wanted to use solid wire and had it on hand.

The key to lighter gauge wire is as Pelsea mentioned, keep the runs shorter and it should be fine.

Regards,

~Kevin

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ray schofield

DCC vs DC

The use telephone wire 22 gauge, I  think was common with DC. When I changed to Dynatrol they recommended a heavier 14 gauge, I think,and also with NCE for the Bus wire. As has already been said the length and spacing of drops is the main determining factor for size.

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Michael SD90

14/22

I'm using 14 gauge bus and 22 gauge feeders, ideally I want to have a set of feeders on every piece of track...IDEALLY!

 

Michael 

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