DBodnar

Good day, all - I have wanted to explore using the smoke generated by an E-Cigarette for some time and have finally finished that experiment and  have posted the results on my web page:

http://trainelectronics.com/Animation_Smoke/

and on YouTube -

The method of generating smoke that I describe is easy and inexpensive to implement.  While it may not be appropriate for installation inside of a locomotive (It could be done but such things already exist!) it is ideal for smoke coming from a factory, burning house, car crash, etc.

We used it at a train show last weekend and it was very well received!

Have a look and let me know what you think

dave

 

 

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Jim at BSME

Wondered about this

I had wondered if these could be used for just such a purpose, thanks for doing the experimentation.

The only concern I have is how much glycerin may condensate back on the tracks/layout.  We have seen problems after running engines with smoke with much higher dirt levels on the track and the only thing we can figure is the smoke is leaving a residue on th track that is collecting dust.  Of course I don't know if the smoke liquid used in steam engines is glycerin based or not.

 

- Jim B.
Baltimore Society of Model Engineers, Estd. 1932
O & HO Scale model railroading
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pierre52

Another great animation

Nicely done Dave and the how to tutorial on your web site is extremely good.  Thanks for sharing.

Peter

The Redwood Sub

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Yaron Bandell ybandell

Halloween fog juice / e-cig juice

Dave, Looking at e-cig juice it uses 2 of 3 main ingredients in Halloween fog machine juice: propylene glycol and glycerine. Fog machine juice is typically around 33% propylene glycol, 2% glycerin and 65% distilled water. So I think you are correct to say you can dilute your glycerin a bunch with distilled water and still get good smoke.
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DBodnar

residue

Jim - I ran one of my test units all day yesterday and noted nothing coating the table that it was sitting on.  Same with the train show.  It appears that such a small quantity of the glycerin vaporizes that it doesn't contaminate anything.  I suppose that a static display would eventually get some coating but so far, so good.

dave

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DBodnar

You are qutte welcome

Jim - it was great fun experimenting and its even better when others find my experiments of interest!

thanks

dave

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DBodnar

Diluting Glycerin

Yaron - doing some tests with a diluted mixture is on my list of things to do!

thanks

dave

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Yaron Bandell ybandell

While experimenting...

How about testing adding some scents to the juice: http://www.froggysfog.com/scents/fluid-scent-additive.htmlBBQ Pit, campfire or chain-saw scene with proper smell anyone?
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DBodnar

Funny you should say that!

Yaron - my HO module has a switchback line that goes into a coffee mine to recover prehistoric coffee beans.  See: 

http://www.trainelectronics.com/Module/

One of the factory buildings is a coffee refinery - I have ordered coffee scented (flavored, too?) juice that I may try for the next train show.

dave

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MikeM

Anyone try this stuff?

http://www.megasteam.com/

MikeM

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DBodnar

2nd video added

I just added a 2nd video on YouTube that shows details on how the smokestack was set up on my module along with some video clips from a recent train show where it was displayed. 

It also shows an interesting discovery that can be used to improve the smoke flow from a chimney.

See:

dave

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allowe

Megasteam works

I installed a G scale loco's smoke generator under one of my traveling NTRAK modules a few years back and I've used a variety of "smoke" products in it over the years. They all work. But Megasteam's coal-scent is my favorite. 

Note that we never smoke non-stop! Less is more. Since it's wired through a stationary decoder and a relay, I can turn it on and off through my Digitrax throttle from anywhere around the layout. (There are also two pushbuttons on the module itself.) When I see people looking at my city, I flip it on. It takes a few seconds to "warm-up." And it's always fun to watch people's faces as they discover it.

Megasteam is highly recommended.

AL

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Toniwryan

Airflow

Have you tried pulsing the air pump to create "puffs" of smoke?  Can it be hooked to a DCC decoder to vary the speed (stream of smoke or lazy rising smoke)?

Another thought I had for animating the smoke would be a motor controlled bellows, either single- or double- action.

 

Toni

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