Pepper Grass

Does anyone know where to find Pepper Grass (sometimes called Candy Tuft)?  I went to my local Micahels and they'd never heard of it.  Same thing at Hobby Lobby.  The closest thing they had was something called "Stardust Gyp".  Is that the same thing?  Has anyone found stores that carry it or knows of a place that sells Pepper grass online?

Thanks,

Bill

This Stuff?

Do you mean this stuff?

Peppergrass

If so, I imagine Ontario would give you all you wanted to take away.

Seems like it's a weed that grows all over the world in up to 230 varieties.  Can I ask what are you using it for?  Got any pictures? [smile]

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I remember pepper grass. It

I remember pepper grass. It was, back in the 60's pre foam foliage and grass material that came in boxes about 4 inches square and 6 inches tall. You could buy it in a variety of greens and yellows but I haven't seen it sold anywhere since 1970. My mother owned a Craft store back in the mid 60's and it was sold at her store for about 50-70 cents per box full with about 24 ounces of the grass. She always gave me what I needed and I would help sweep up and restock all the shelves after school to pay for a lot of the stuff I used like glues and plaster that she also sold. I wonder what happened to that stuff too.

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

Kevin- I'm not sure if that's

Kevin-

I'm not sure if that's the correct plant or not.  It's a plant/weed that should be available in the dried floral section at craft stores--but nobody around here knows what I'm talking about.  Dave Frary mentions Pepper Grass trees in his scenery book, and there's also a chapter (#13) in the "New Scenery Tips & Techniques" book.  Robert Hamm describes how he uses it to make really nice looking Aspen's:

http://www.trains.com/mrr/objects/pdf/mr_sc_5-05_toweringtimber_01.pdf

It's got a great "leaf" look and appers to have buds or pods that are smaller than what's on caspia branches. 

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After seeing the PDF. Thats

After seeing the PDF. Thats not the same stuff I used 40 years ago, I have seen the stuff in the PDF they are calling pepper grass at Michaels right next to the Caspia I bought last fall and it's about $4.00 for a bundle but I'm going to have to see exactally what it's called at Michales.

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

Those look great!

It's got a great "leaf" look and appers to have buds or pods that are smaller than what's on caspia branches.

Yes, it sure does!  Like Dan, I think I saw some of this stuff at Micheals the last time I was there.  I don't know what they call it either.  Next time I'm in there I'll look more closely.

You'll find it as sesame

You'll find it as sesame bloom, pepper grass or candy tuft, the batch I have at home says candy tuft on the sticker and I got it at Michael's, but I have noticed their dried flower dept is getting pretty feeble. If I find it online I'll drop a note here.

Thank You Sully Chief cook, Bottle Washer, Gandy Dancer, and husband to the CFO Lake Superior & Southern RR
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I found Michaels pepper grass

I just ran in the store real quick as I was actually headed to the lumber yard to pick up some 2X4X8 foot long to build a new wall in my train room, anyway I ran in to Michaels and asked the first guy I saw if they carried Dried Pepper Grass he looked up and said yes but Michaels calls it Stardust Gypsum.

He then asked me if I was a model railroader looking to make Aspen trees and with a little surprise I said yes and I wanted to check the price. I followed him to the dried flowers and he handed me a bunch in a plastic open ended bag. I looked at the price which is $4.99 a bunch and then noticed it came in two colors Natural and Bleached White both were the same size and price. so I stuck the bundle back on the shelf and said see you in a few days to the employee and thanks.

I then got out to the truck and wrote the name down STARDUST GYPSUM $4.99 a bunch.Other wise I would have forgotten both the name and price, Lumber yards do that to me for some reason LOL.

The natural was the exact same color as in the PDF and in 2 other books I have seen Articles on how to make aspens so I guess Natural which isn't much darker then the Bleached white is what I'll buy seeing that I'm building A Colorado Railroad I will need about 20 bundles as I'm going to need quite a few Aspens.

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

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Great ideas here

I may have to try this - the Aspen is not a southern tree, but this could produce some interesting variations of oak . . .

Anyone know if this would work for a conifer - I need to make a few bald cypress at some point . . . .

Philip H. Chief Everything Officer Baton Rouge Southern Railroad, Mount Rainier Div.

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Not Cypress or Oak with this

Not Cypress or Oak with this Pepper Grass plant as the branches are very small and just in no way look like Oak or Cypress.

I have both types of trees in the area in fact I have many large trees in my back 20 acres and the forest beyond there are Oak, Ash, Poplar, cherry, Maple, and down along the Creek there are Cypress, Hickory, Dogwood, lodge pole Pine, Fir, Ponderosa Pine, Bull pine and a lot of other trees.

The only thing that pepper grass would be good for is the Colorado and western Aspen and you could use it for the eastern Dogwood because they have skinny light colored trunks and branches with roundish leaves. Actually Caspia Basil would work better for the Cypress since they are ever greens also if you have mustard plants in your area you could make some nice Sycamore as they are large sparse hardwoods you just cut the leaves and flowers off the mustard plants stick the base of the plant in Styrofoam and allow it to dry out for a few weeks and then spray it with brown and green and brush it with lite yellow highlights.

This is whats known as the Giant Cypress^^^They grow to only be 18 ft tall full grown because actually they are a Bush or a Hedge plant and not really a tree so you only need to make them about 1-3/4 inches tall to make the largest variety of Cypress.

These are yound Bald Cypress and grow to be between 100-125 feet tall and you will need the Caspia Basel to make these as well as 8 inch tall 2 inch tapered to1/4 inch round dowels ruffed up for trunks. here is a link to see the enlargement of these young 2 foot tall saplings.

http://www.coldstreamfarm.net/p-53-bald-cypress-taxodium-distichum.aspx

And above are Full grown Bald Cypress Swamp Trees look out for Gators

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

Aspen construction article help..

Anyone remember where that aspen constuction article is?? I know I have it, but for the life of me I can't find it.. What book was it published in??

Thanks

Thank You Sully Chief cook, Bottle Washer, Gandy Dancer, and husband to the CFO Lake Superior & Southern RR

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