44 tonner mods

G'day folks

I am sure that just about everyone who has model railways (sorry - railroads) has at one time or another had or used a Bachmann 44 ton switcher.

With this tiny loco being the focal point of my layout currently under construction, and having used locomotives with DCC and sound, I am asking if anyone out there has installed or know of someone who has installed a sound chip and speaker into the tiny space of these locos?

TCS decoders are great and reliable to fit into the locomotive, however they are very limited when it comes to fitting a speaker, especially when maintaining the weight.

All of the 44 tonners are the ones with a single motor.

Put your thinking caps on and see if you can come up with some photos or drawings to overcome this problem.

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Wolfgang Dudler

Hi Tom-

I'm pretty sure that Wolfgang (a member of this site) did this for his Westport Terminal RR and has it documented on his site somewhere.  Sorry I don't have the direct link but it might be worth poking around the Wesport Terminal section to see if you can find it. 

I could be wrong, but I'm 99% sure he's posted about it at some point but if I'm wrong I'm sure he'll correct me.

 

~rb

Spectrum 44 ton

I have put a DZ125 in a two motor Spectrum 44 ton and a LokSound Micro in a single motor 44 ton using the 44 ton sound. You can hear both engines start when the loco is seletced.

The LokSound installation required cutting a little of the frame with a Dremel and diamond cutoff wheel to accommodate the speaker.

The PC board is removed and I hard wired the decoder. I installed a beacon on the roof like Wolfgang.

The loco starts moving at speed step on at 1 mph using my NCE Power Cab. The decoder is configured to max out at 40 mph but the 44 ton had a max speed of about 20 mph.

Union Freight in Boston use to double them because the 15 to 20 car transfers were to much for a single loco.

I can email the photos so I do not clutter up this forum. Let me know.

I also use a LokSound with Baldwin diesel sound in a Spectrum 70 ton loco.

44 ton info below. I find 90 percent or more of my train data by searching the 'Net and storing the links.

http://www.northeast.railfan.net/diesel122.html

You Tube video of my 44 ton. Still learning how to run diesels as all I have modeled to date are steam locos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/richg15y#p/u/12/EDosTzkQiWg

Wolfgang site.

http://www.westportterminal.de/

His 44 ton is in there somewhere.

Rich

 

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GE 44 ton

I have done a sound install on a Spectrum 44 ton using a LokSound decoder. Great project.

I tried posting some links for this loco but I was told my message is Spam so I am not trying to post them now. This message is working so far.

I have pictures of my install if you are interested. I will not try to post the photos here. I do use Photo Bucket but I do not trust this site right now.

Rich

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44 tonners

Mine have decoders but not sound. The factory circuit board was removed and the decoder installed on a slight angle in one hood. Somewhere I recall an article where a sound decoder was installed in these with the speaker in the roof. I would measure the roof and try to find a speaker to fit there.

Sound and other things

Thanks for the information so quickly.

Downunder in Australia, we are usually up to date and also quite inovative with doing odd things with locos and I thought that a member of the NMRA down here mentioned it at a monthly NMRA meeting, but the brain cells are fading a bit.

I haven't had anything to do with Locsound as all of my decoders are TCS (for non sound) and Soundtraxx in both first generation for the not so heavily used locos and Tsunami for the popular rosters.

Can someone tell me the difference between the physical sizes of the Locsound and the Micro Tsunami.

The 44 tonners that I have at present have TCS M1 decoders fitted and they don't require any alteration to the chassis etc.

As long as I don't have to cut any weight out, I am willing to try anything because they need every bit of the weight that they have.

On another point, if anyone needs to cut a weight to allow fitting of anything, you are able to add weight by using #6 shotgun lead shot (not the steel shot) glued into those corners where the chassis or motor don't touch the body.  It is amazing how much extra you can get inside by using this method.

I will check out the links that you have provided and if anyone can send me some photos, they can go to timesaverlayouts1@bigpond.com

Thanks again!

Ge 44 ton

Go to the Litchfield Station site and look at the decoders. All the specs on the decoders are there.

http://www.litchfieldstation.com/DCC-University/index.htm

The LokSound Micro is a little thinner than the Micro-Tsunami. The LokSound has the 44 ton sound according to the LokSOund site.The below sound to have programmed before it is sent to you.

72443 CAT 44     Diesel-switcher, 44 tons weight, 2 × Caterpillar

The inside of the 44 ton hood is 16mm wide. I had to use a sanding block to sand the plastic side of the speaker frame for it to fit in. I use sheet styrene to make my own speaker baffle. You will see that in the photos.

Rich

 

 

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Scail Rails

Yes, I have had an article  " Installing Sound in a 44-Tonner" in Scale Rails in Jun 2007.

But I own not the Bachmann 44-ton. My 44-ton is a kit from Keystone. I think, you can perhaps use a lot of ideas from there.

Wolfgang

Spectrun 44 ton

Below are a couple photos of my 44 tonner. I do not know if the beacon is prototypical but I did it because of Wolfgang's 44 ton videos. The decoder is to the right. The resistor is for the 1.5 volt lamp in the beacon. The two brown leads are for the speaker and you can barely see two #40 magnet wire leads for the strobe light. The LokSound decoders have four functions and a lot of operating options.

I left the 12 volt bulbs in place but painted the rear of the bulbs with black liquid vinyl so the cab is not flooded with light.

Eventually two of these will be painted for the Union Freight and equipped with MU options.

There is an article in MR magazine, Jan 2001 on the Union Freight paint scheme.

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/spectrum%2044%20ton/Finished.jpg

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l267/richg1998/spectrum%2044%20ton/44toninside.jpg

The shiny part of the frame is where I cut out about 2.8 grams of the frame to allow the speaker to fit in the location above it.

Rich

 

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BBS image tags don't work on this site

Rich,

BBS [IMG] tags don't work on this site for posting images.

See Jeff Shultz's image posting guide for how to post image on this site.

Joe Fugate
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44 ton photos

Thanks Joe but that is far too complex compared to any other forum. I have already emailed photos to one of the posters. Just thought I would let others see them but no big deal.

Rich

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