mesimpson

As I proceed with building the Hudson Bay Railway Flin Flon Subdivision I have been formulating a rough operating scheme for the layout, essentially what to run on the layout to give it a purpose.  Running trains “just because” is fine but I am getting more involved with local layouts that are operations based and I find that aspect of the hobby very interesting. 

A friend of mine is a locomotive engineer on Canadian National, and as a happy coincidence worked in northern Manitoba in the early to mid 1980’s.  He has been very good about answering numerous queries about operations, procedures etc.  Things changed somewhat when the HBR took over from CN in 1997 but it offers a very good starting point. 

Out of The Pas CN had in the 1980's and 1990's:

The current Hudson Bay Railway / Keewatin Railway (KWR) runs:

In addition there will be 1 or 2 yard jobs at the Flin Flon smelter that are confined to the smelter area.  This is a major operation so there will be no shortage of work there. 

As this shows, the CN operating scheme has much more activity than the current HBR scheme.  This does offer a couple of potential options for operating sessions.  If there will be a larger crew we can operate the layout as it would be in the CN era, and if only a few people are attending we can switch to the HBR timeframe with lighter traffic. 

I would make the following adjustments to the prototype schedule for added operational interest: extend the Wabowden to Churchill mixed train to start from The Pas.  I am undecided about whether it should operate northbound and southbound on the same days as the Lynn Lake Mixed train or on opposite days.  They serviced different areas but on the layout they will run into the same staging yard.  Opposing mixed trains might be interesting to run, however looking at a potential string diagram of the operations it looks like they work better running the same direction.  I have the string diagrams a bit further on. 

I also contemplate running a Channing extra for traffic heading there as the prototype only has 1 train running on the Flin Flon subdivision beyond Cranberry Portage.  An additional train would add more operations beyond the Flin Flon Junction. 

As well I would have both northbound and southbound Thompson wayfreights operating as Thompson is home to a large nickel smelter that can generate a lot of traffic.  I am also operating a Tolko switcher which on the prototype was done using the yard engine, adding another train for more operational interest.     

With this in mind let’s look at what a potential operating session would look like with:

Monday/Wednesday/Friday

Northbound

VIA 693 (Hudson Bay) Winnipeg (south staging) to Churchill via The Pas

VIA 291 (Lynn Lake Mixed) Lynn Lake to The Pas

VIA 295 (Churchill Mixed) The Pas to Churchill (prototype started in Wabowden, not on the modeled portion of the railway)

Grain Loads to Churchill from south staging

Flin Flon turn- The Pas to Flin Flon smelter

Channing turn – The Pas to Channing yard traffic – non prototype

Thompson wayfreight – The Pas to Thompson traffic

Tolko Switcher turn

CN Canora to The Pas freight – from south staging yard to The Pas

Southbound (from north staging)

VIA 692 (Hudson Bay) Churchill to Winnipeg via The Pas

Thompson wayfreight – Thompson to The Pas traffic

CN The Pas to Canora – The Pas to south staging

Grain Empties

Flin Flon turn – returning Flin Flon to The Pas

Channing Turn – returning Channing to The Pas

Tolko switcher turn – returning Tolko switcher

In addition there will be a The Pas south switcher that serves industries south of the yard, yard switcher in The Pas and 1 or 2 switchers for the HBM&S smelter in Flin Flon.  This would be a full session.  A smaller group would run a reduced schedule more along the lines of what the HBR currently runs. 

The Tuesday/Thursday/Saturday schedule would be much the same except that the Lynn Lake and Churchill mixed trains would run southbound instead of northbound. 

The string diagram for the M/W/F operating session looks like this:

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Where train lines cross one another represents a meet between opposing trains.  This table doesn’t show the Channing turn as I am still working out how it would fit in.  TPS, TPY and TPSN are all within yard limits so meets are up to the yardmaster to set up. 

As with anything theoretical it remains to be seen if this is workable in the real world.  I expect that changes will have to be made as we get underway.    My hope is that this would be an interesting and challenging operating session for everyone involved. 

Marc Simpson

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mesimpson

Some prototype shots

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Northbound grain train July 2003 with only operating SD35 (ex Utah Railroad 2959) in Canada at the time

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Flin Flon turn arriving at Channing April 2000.  This trestle will be one of the signature scenes on the Flin Flon Subdivision

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HBM&S #1 Switching the smelter at Flin Flon, April 2000

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Tolko Switcher arriving back in The Pas April 2000

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Southbound Lynn Lake Mixed at Cranberry Portage April 2000

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Switching the Lynn Lake Mixed at The Pas MB station April 2000

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Rene Gourley renegourley

Oh dear, doesn't look good for our bet

If you're already putting together string diagrams, should I put the beer in the fridge?

Looks like a lot of traffic, although I frankly haven't digested the whole posting.

Looking forward to losing,

Rene'

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mesimpson

Don't worry Rene'

It is amazing what can be accomplished on a work trip during down time when no distractions are around (ie. kids). That said layout construction is hung up on getting lower staging bullet proof so this is still a close race.  If you want to put the beer in the fridge though that is always a handy thing to have around. 

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Joe Atkinson IAISfan

Watching with interest

This looks like it's going to be a great layout regardless of the era you choose. I'm really looking forward to watching it take shape.

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Larry Leavens

Sad news for SD35


I was in The Pas this summer and the SD35 mentioned above and other odd balls that HBRY had were in the process of being scrapped. I am pleased that the SD35 was used in revenue serves. The HBRY is an interesting shortline serving a remote part of Canada. Good to see some one modelling this line.    

 

Larry 

 

 

 

 

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