ray schofield

verviewa.JPG A question of how you construct scenes on your layouts. At my age, 73, stranding for long periods is a pain, in many places. Pardon the pun. Even when I was younger and physically (reasonably) fit, I built structures and in fact whole scenes, including track, on a base while sitting at a bench, table or other comfortable place. This allowed me to detail them better and in comfort and with the track and structures in a very realistic way The club I belong to has a habit of placing the  bench work and track in place and then trying to fit structures to the existing configuration. A further problem in an area I am scenicking the reach to the backdrop is almost 4 feet. This is due to the minimum radius of 42". I have posted some shots of the area before, but here is an overview. I am interested in how other people approch this. Particularly when modeling a complete scene including the building(s).

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LKandO

Scenery as a module

Cut a piece of fome-cor to fit the plot. Mark the position of the structures, roads, etc. Move to a comfortable working spot. Complete the structures. Place the completed assembly back onto the layout. Scenic the edges of the fome-cor. 

Alan

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ctxmf74

"A further problem in an area

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"A further problem in an area I am scenicking the reach to the backdrop is almost 4 feet. This is due to the minimum radius of 42". I have posted some shots of the area before, but here is an overview. I am interested in how other people approach this."

   I design everything to be within reach preferably less than 24 inches from the fascia and certainly no more than 30 inches. Anything beyond that is represented by backdrops......DaveB 

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ray schofield

Thanks Alan.   As I said that

backdrop.JPG Thanks Alan.

As I said that is how I have always done it, except I use a plywood and Homosote base. I then can install the track and screw it to the open benchork. I have even done some of that here, but not with the structures or track. See attachedin_place.jpg 

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ray schofield

Thanks ctxmf74  This 30" rule

Thanks ctxmf74

This 30" rule we have also, but due to our minimum radius rule of 42" and  multiple tracks makes the distance from aisle to backdrop about 4 feet even with the backdrops 1 foot apart. Spreading them more would create a 3 foot +tunnel and a large dead space. This could have been done, but building the whole or part of the scene on a bench would have allowed us to utilize the space for the large structure you see. Maintaining the 30" rule means small or partial structures. This large structure will be unique as many areas utilize backdrop buildings only in order to maintain reachable track.

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mirobro

Deep scenery

Ray, I feel your pain on this one. My last layout had some deep scenes like the one your working on. ( thus, my last layout) the answer might be the topside creeper from Micromark. It's a little pricey for the individual, but for a club layout it is probably worth it. Not only are you going to have build the scene, but you're also going to have to back in there to do maintenance and cleaning. I think the club should look into it. The added benefit is while using it you can lean on the horizontal pad taking some of the strain of your feet and legs.

Mike

Modeling the Continental Northern Railroad @ michaelbromander.com

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ray schofield

creeper

Mike thanks

  We own a topside creeper at our club and bought it for the very reasons you suggest. I still think that building dioramas on a bench allows a lot better chance for detailing. I also think planning out the scene including buildings, track and grades is important. I know many people that do it this way, and only a couple of club members who seem to want to build all the bench work, lay all the track and then try and fit in structures and scenes. I certainly can't picture anyone building a scratch built structure, Finescale or South River model works structure directly on the layout .

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