mesimpson

As construction has progressed on the Flin Flon Subdivision work recently has focused on getting the lower staging (northern destinations) up and running prior to starting work on the Flin Flon smelter area which will be immediately above the lower staging.  Taking a break from the staging work, I decided to give the “switch to nowhere” at Flin Flon Junction a destination.  

On the prototype there is a ballast/gravel pit between Cranberry Portage and Flin Flon.  This is a necessary “industry” to model as the muskeg can have an unending appetite for fresh ballast as it swallows the roadbed during the summer months. 

The obvious location on the layout for a ballast pit is just “north” of Cranberry Portage at Flin Flon Junction.  After doodling a few potential layouts for the pit I settled on having the switch to the pit facing south with the track lead ending in the wall corner.

1 ½ inch foam from a previous layout was used as the base for the pit.  I have a bunch laying around getting in the way in the layout room so I put some to work.  Overtop of the foam I used donnacona board (the closest I can find to Homasote in the Vancouver BC area) to form the pit floor.  A few carved edges later the rough pit layout was done.  I tweaked a length of Microengineering Code 70 flex track to the curvature I wanted for the pit track.  I like this product as it holds the form you bend it into with minimal fuss. 

The area only requires one feeder which I had already soldered to the main bus before any track was laid (thanks for the suggestion René).  A total of 5 ballast hoppers can fit into the pit siding, providing a good traffic source for the layout.  The curve into the pit is fairly sharp, but it can be negotiated by 4 axle units.  I tested a C630M around the curve, and it looks like I may have to put a note in the timetable about limiting the pit to 4 axle units only. 

My previous experiments with ballast paint (see my earlier blog post about this idea) left me with about 1/3 of a can of paint.  I figured this was a perfect application for the remainder of the paint, so on a Saturday morning before anyone else was up I was spraying the pit floor.  Given that the paint has a fairly strong odor, it was best to do this early as we were out of the house all day, giving it time to dissipate.  I think that when I start putting actual ballast down on the pit floor the paint will give some good depth to the rock there.   For now it is a nice stand in for actual ballast. 

I can use the corner to form the walls of the pit, essentially using the 90 degree corners as part of the pit.  Using some scrap foam from a recent speaker purchase I have started roughing in the pit walls. I may lower the walls somewhat as I am leaning towards more subdued topography in this area, leading into more rugged Canadian Shield topography as the track heads into Flin Flon, similar to what is seen on the prototype.  That said, a deep ballast pit towering over the hopper cars is attractive.  More food for thought.  A few photos of the work progress below. 

Marc Simpson

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mesimpson

pit photos

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Foam base for ballast pit

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Putting spaghetti sauce, diced tomatoes and my wife's exercise equipment to good use

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Donnacona board over top of the foam

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Ballast painted pit floor.  It looks pretty good in person

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Roughed in pit walls.  It will be a work in progress for a while until I find something I like.

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Another view of the pit with 5 ballast hoppers.  A good "industry" to generate traffic in all directions.

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Rene Gourley renegourley

Maybe you need a guard rail

Nice to see things coming together, Marc.  Maybe if you added a guard rail, 6-axle units could make the curve.  Maybe a guard rail would just look cool on the tight curve.

I like the idea of lowering the sides of the pit, and maybe it should extend into the backdrop so there is enough gravel to fill all those cars.  You're also going to need a crusher (fun model!).

Thanks for the shout out!

Rene'

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DKRickman

Front wall

You may want to lower or almost completely eliminate that front wall of the pit, between the pit and the main line.  There's no way they would have left such a thin wall of rock, in my opinion.  If you want a scenic divider there, either some trees or a fence would do the job nicely.

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ctxmf74

"You may want to lower or

"You may want to lower or almost completely eliminate that front wall of the pit, between the pit and the main line.  There's no way they would have left such a thin wall of rock, in my opinion.  If you want a scenic divider there, either some trees or a fence would do the job nicely."

  or maybe an entrance road and a office/maintenance building? I'd check out the Mike Confalone article on modeling a quarry, can't get much better than his portrayal....DaveB

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mesimpson

The good thing about foam is...

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated.  The good thing about loose foam is that it is easy to change.  I have several bags of this foam from the speakers to play with so it will be a good way to rough in ideas and see how they work. 

I agree about the front wall, it was an idea that I thought might help the transition from the relatively low flat muskeg around Cranberry Portage to the more rugged topography around Flin Flon.  On the prototype this happened over 20 miles or so, on the layout it will be in about 5 feet.  Probably a screen of trees or perhaps an access road from Cranberry Portage is workable. 

The prototype pits in this area are often remote and only accessed via rail, however this one is close enough to town to have road access. 

I agree about needing a crusher, also a few trucks and a couple of front end loaders will also be required.  On the wall in the background you can see photos of a road accessible pit in the modeled area. 

Perhaps to keep life simple I'll extend the pit into the wall with the crusher as a photo behind a small ridge of waste rock or a ridge of unsuitable rock.  A lot of pits have islands of material that was not suitable for their needs so the crusher can hide behind that.  Big pit and infrastructure with a lot less work.  Kind of like what Mike Confalone did in his gravel pit.  I hope mine is even a little bit like his as far as execution is concerned, although I don't have to worry about modeling bare trees. 

I am modeling the summer (June/July) to take advantage of the Canadian Wheat Board end of crop year grain rush to Churchill, and as an added bonus the demand for ballast will be huge in order to shore up the roadbed sinking into the northern Manitoba swamps and muskeg when they thaw out.  Lots of extra traffic generation. 

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Tim Schwartz tschwartz

Beside the pit

Correct me if you have photos to back it up, but the tracks never went into the pit. Your pit walls should be high piles of crushed and uncrushed ballast.  

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mesimpson

Looks like I need Herr Schwartz to go pittin'

The only photos I have are the ones on the wall.  Perhaps my resident spy er.. photographer could go to the pit sometime and shoot the heck out of it... or did you do that already and I didn't print them out?

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Tim Schwartz tschwartz

Mile 61

I am uncertain if I sent you the Payuk photos, but you probably need more panoramic ones than I took.

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I can imagine that when in full swing you would see piles of ballast on both sides of the tracks.

Today one of the three tracks into the pit area is almost buried which could make for an interesting design element. The pit is to the right (west) in the photo and is full of water, home to some beavers.

Payuk-2.jpg Of course each of the tracks ends with a ballast pile.

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Maybe I will head out this weekend and grab a few more shots before the leaves turn yellow.

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mesimpson

I might have to add another track

The other shots I downloaded off the internet showed there was activity in the pit into the post CN era so I'll have lots of ballast to load.  I haven't seen these particular shots before so add them to my order, and I would be very thankful if you could get more shots of the area.  Maybe I should have asked for photos before I started this little project.  I don't know if I have any way to add another track (or two) but it would definitely add more loading spots if I can. 

As always, thanks.   

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