p51

Recently I got a structure which comes with hurricane roof vents and pallets like you'd move with a forklift.

 

I model the year 1943. When did they start using these vents or pallets like that? I spent a lot of time online trying to find the history of each with no luck...

Lee

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Milt Spanton mspanton

I recall pallets from the

I recall pallets from the 1930s in materials handling info from the Soo Line that was still in the Stores Dept files in the 1980s.  Can't help you on the vent.

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Rustman

Re Roof Vents

I am currently leafing through my 1942 Architectural Forum bound edition. So far I've come across advertisements for two other roof vents that function on the same principle but have a different appearance. But I am about 99% sure that the type you have were in use by then. Still looking though. 

Matt

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barr_ceo

From

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pallet

 

Quote:

History

The development of the forklift and the needs of World War II logistics operations led to substantial use of pallets. [22]

References to the early pallets types are slim with a string of patents showing parts of the development. The earliest may be a U.S. patent on a skid from 1924 describing Hallowell's "Lift Truck Platform." In the late 1930s, pallets became more commonplace with the newer forklift types and a 1939 patent from Carl Clark shows a more modern pallet type with steel stringers. War time developments were often just patented after the war, so there is a patent from Robert Braun on a four-way palette in 1945, and a patent from Norman Cahners (a U.S. Navy Supply Officer) shows a disposable pallet type in 1949. The complete construction principle of a modern four-way pallet is described by Darling Graeme in 1949. [23]

 

See the entry here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forklift_truck for the history of the forklift...

The device shown in the photo is a Turbine Vent, not a Hurricane Vent. The Hurricane vent is a specific design, distinguished by its flat sides, and claims higher efficiency.

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Brent Ciccone Brentglen

Useful Information

That is useful information, I always suspected that the palette and forklift were a recent invention. At least too recent for my 1920's era!

Brent Ciccone

Calgary

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UPWilly

The vent

I believe the vent you have pictured is a turbine vent. As the warm air rises and exits the vent, it causes the vent to spin. As wind on the outside causes the turbine to spin, air is vented though the resulting suction created with the spinning. Having seen these, as I recall, as a youth, I would say they have been around for better than 65 years.

There are vents similar in function to the turbine vents, but have additional shielding on the outside to resist hurricane force winds.

 

Bill D.

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p51

Thanks, guys. Pallets are

Thanks, guys. Pallets are good, but still unsure on the vents...

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dkaustin

@ Lee

You might want to check out Shorpy.  There are plenty of roof top pics throughout.  You might spot the vents in use that you want to model.

http://www.shorpy.com

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chepp

1921 U.S. patent for a ventilating device

This 1921 patent filing might show the grand-daddy of many that came later:

https://www.google.com/patents/US1509957

 

So, I think that there would be no problem in them being around in 1943. I have them on my 1939 time-period module.

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UPWilly

@chepp

Great job of research. That pretty well narrows it down.

 

Bill D.

egendpic.jpg 

N Scale (1:160), not N Gauge. DC (analog), Stapleton PWM Throttle.

Proto-freelance Southwest U.S. 2nd half 20th Century.

Keep on trackin'

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Douglas Meyer

That style of vent was on the

That style of vent was on the barn where I grew up.  It was build sometime between 39 and 46, depending on whom you talked to.

-Doug

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p51

thanks!

Thanks for the info, i had no idea they went back that far...

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Charles Malinowski Bmry1905

P51...thanks

51, thanks for posting these two great questions.  I too have had similar questions.  The replies are what I love most about MRH!

Charles Malinowski Carmel, IN

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Benny

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Early forklifts were essentially add-on parts for base tractors, whereas instead of a backhoe, you have a forklift.



 

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