rblundon

One of the rural towns along the area I would like to model is Hartland, Wisconsin.  I really like the track schematic as seen here: 

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I did a full scale mock-up of this keeping the proportions as close as possible to the picture above: 

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Yes, it is hard to make everything out, but all the tracks are all accounted for.  The challenge is that this comes out to just under 62 feet long!  This longest wall I have in my layout room is just under 20 feet, so there is some work to do to compress this scene.

I also want to use the domino/modular approach going forward.  Using an 18” depth and keeping the main line in the center, I can keep a modest 30 inch radius on the corner curves and still have eight to twelve feet of straight run on most of the walls of my room.

In addition to this, because of the size of the room, a double track main just isn’t in the cards, so the first thing to do is remove the double track main and see where that leaves things.

Here is the track plan with a single track main line: 

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The overall length is now 53.5 feet long.  Reducing the plan to a single track saved almost nine feet in the overall length.

The east and west tracks each had their own passing track.  Since there is now a single track, there really isn’t the need for two passing sidings.  The question now, is which one to get rid of?  At the top of the diagram are industries.  There is a gravel loading facility on the left industry track and an oil dealer, feed mill and freight house on the right industry track.  On the bottom tracks, the passing track is the bottom-most track with a yard track between the main line and passing track.

First, let’s see what it looks like if we get rid of the lower passing track: 

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Ok, with this change, the plan is down to just under 48 feet.  I kind of liked the track arrangement that leads into the yard track on the right side, but it took up quite a bit of space.

Now, what does it look like if we remove the upper passing track instead: 

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The plan is down to just under 46 feet now, and it looks more interesting to me.  The down-side to this plan is that there are a lot of turnouts on the main line.  Either way, the track plan is way too long for a rural town in HO.  I’d like to get this plan down to eight feet, but might settle for twelve.  Let’s see what can be done with twelve feet first. 

Due to the size of my room, running long trains is just not going to happen.  I’d like to be able to run ten to twelve foot through trains, but the siding here is definitely not going to be able to support twelve foot trains.  This might be an easy fix?  I will limit my patrol trains to eight feet long.  This way, I can fit the whole scene in a twelve foot long space.  At this point, I am also going to reduce all turnouts to #6. 

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The passing track is shorter now, but it really doesn’t look like the original diagram.  I think that some compromise is needed here. I think that the feed mill, oil dealer, and freight house will be more interesting to model and switch than the gravel loading facility, so time for it to go.  Here’s what it looks like at twelve feet long: 

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The flavor of the prototype has been kept intact and only one industry was lost.  I think that this will have a lot of operating interest on my railroad! 

One last tweak, since the is a modular layout, I’m going to make an eight foot option that makes the feed mill optional and shortens the yard and passing track by four feet.

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I think even this keeps the flavor of the prototype.

What do you think?

 

HO 

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coxy

Nice analysis

Interesting thread. Thanks for sharing.

Some suggestions and observations...

  • Nice track plan to convert to model form.
  • Glad you showed the space benefits of slimming to single track.
  • Consider running the tracks at a slight angle to the edge of the benchwork, say 5-10 degrees. It will add visual appeal to the layout and give you a little extra length on the straight run. You can still use but joints to connect the modules.
  • The twelve foot design (second last drawing) looks much better than the 8 foot design. I think a lot is lost in the transition from twelve feet to eight feet and it seems the compression has been taken too far. The shorter design looks cramped and has some very short sidings which will be very limiting operationally.
  • An observation...I read your post as an N scaler and did  not perceive any train length limitations till HO was mentioned. For all it's benefits and popularity, HO does gobble up space. I was hoping the story would lead to a plan that really captures the nice linear aspect of the original track plan. It's a shame that HO allows for so little of the original plan. Any compromises you're able to take to put length into sidings will help return that linear look and feel.

Have you moved to construction yet? Would be great to get an update.

- Coxy

 

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rblundon

Construction has begun

Coxy,

Thanks for your thoughts.  I agree with you that the 12' option is much better.  I am starting with the 8' option and plan on adding the middle section shortly after I get things running.  I understand your thoughts about putting the tracks on a slight angle, but in true modular thinking, I want to be able to have the option to move modules around the room as things progress.  Think of the International Space Station.  So, while a little less visually appealing, this will give me the most flexibility as the layout progresses.

I have the first 4' section built and the foam adhesive is curing now.  I can't wait to start marking it up and getting roadbed and track put down.

Here is the frame itself:


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Thanks for looking, stay tuned for more.

 

HO 

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ctxmf74

Selective compression

"keeping the proportions as close as possible to the picture above"

  If modeling that scene realistically is the primary goal it should be possible in N scale on a 20 foot long wall. Take away 5 feet for curves at the ends and you have 15 feet left for passing tracks, industrial tracks, and quite a bit of appropriate scenery.  If a larger scale is more important then I'd abandon the specific location and design what fit the space the best because something overly compressed resembles a different scene more than the original scene most times...DaveB

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Mike MILW199

The prototype was a small

The prototype was a small town astride a high-speed double track mainline.  All those tracks were there for a reason.  Going from the diagram, it looks like this town was switched going west, as the industries are all off the west passing track.  There looks to be room to do the switching clear of the main, to let the parade of traffic go by unimpeded.  Passing tracks are still needed with directionally signaled double track, need a place to stash trains as faster ones overtake.   With the cutting out of tracks and such, I feel it loses the flavor of that, and becomes just a branch line town, if that. 

At least you don't want to model present day, which would be a single main track, a single ended siding, and a nicely restored freight house. 

Modeling the high-speed main takes a lot of space.  Might be time to try out one of the nearby branch lines, with a more-modelable train density, track arrangement, etc. 

 

Mike  former WSOR engineer  "Safety First (unless it costs money)"  http://www.wcgdrailroad.com/

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rblundon

Siding is gone...

Mike,

Thanks for you comments.  You and I have had a few discussions about modeling in this area and the nearby branches.  I appreciate your thoughts as I know you know this area very well.  However, I keep being drawn back to Hartland more so than some of the local branches.  I am happy with the single track line posted here.  The siding is small, but I plan on having a longer siding just up the tracks from here.

As an aside, I walked this track yesterday.  The switch to the siding has been taken out.  The secondary switch that went down to the industry still stands and is unlocked.  I enjoyed throwing the points for real.  I find it interesting how little force is required to move the rails from one position to the other.

Ryan

 

HO 

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