MLW

I am curious about how many people actually model or have a "Canadian-only" layout.

People model Australian, New Zealander, Chinese, Russian, German, French, British, Mexican, American, Norwegian, Peruvian, Japanese etc railroad which is all good and a proof of how great this hobby really is.

I am interested to hear from people who have a Canadian Layout.   

By that I mean modeling a Canadian class 1 railroad or a branch line, short line or even a fictitious railroad. Anything and everything that is Canadian only irrespective of era or scale. 

A few freight cars with US names/roads is unavoidable, but for the purpose of this exercise it has to be a minority on your layout. There's plenty of Canadian companies, distributors, roads, trademark, logo etc. available to model anyway. 

With the huge advance in Canadian prototypically-correct models in the last 10 years or so with correct details and paint scheme, it is easier then ever to model a Canadian only layout .

For the longest time this was not so:  CN / CP paint scheme slapped on US loco and rolling stock that never existed or ever appeared north of the border in real life. One example: The Shark Nose and F40 loco in CN paint scheme.  This created problems for Canadian modeler for years: Scratch built what you need or model something else. 

Thanks to highly accurate models of actual Canadian prototype with correct and accurate paint scheme (Kaslo, Sylvan, Athabasca, TLT, Rapido, etc.) produced by Canadian manufacturers it has now been possible to model accurately what was and is riding the rails north of the border. Further Athearn and Bowser have taken noticed and started to cater to the Canadian market with accurate Canadian rolling stock and locomotive.

So, do you have a Canadian only layout?

 

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dreesthomas

Canadian

Can we do this without anyone using the expression "eh?"

Definitely Canadian:  one short,  lightly-travelled, albeit fictitious  CP subdivision and a portion of another in the coastal mountains of BC in 1929.  And a fragment of a logging company which actually did operate within sight of Vancouver.

David

 

David Rees-Thomas
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Dave K skiloff

You betcha

I have one Soo loco, but of course, that is owned by CP.  I don't have a specific prototype line nailed down at this point, and am more than likely to go freelanced with all Canadian prototypes.  I have a mix of CN, CP and VIA and am keeping to that.  Several times I've been tempted to get a few cool US models, like the DD40X, Big Boy or SP's cab forward ac-12, but have stuck to my guns, which is good.  As you've mentioned, the market is almost flooded with TOO MUCH Canadian content for me to handle.  My interest lies in western Canada in the mid-70s to very early 80s, so I've tried to maintain only stuff for that era, too, which I've pretty much done.  

Recent offerings from Rapido, TLT, Athearn and Bowser have got my budget spent for the next 18 months at least, but the glut of stuff coming out over the next year has caused me to pick and choose, so I won't be getting the F40PH-2D or LRC, as much as I would like them for even collecting.  But Canadian all the way!

Dave
Playing around in HO and N scale since 1976

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Bill Brillinger

Do I? -- identity confusion...

Does my BNML count?

I model the CN Letellier Sub in Manitoba - but my model railroad also covers about 2 miles of BNSF in the USA and the traffic on the BNML is all managed by the BNSF, even though the trains are staffed by CN crews. The Motive Power is CN equipment

Does that count?

Bill Brillinger

Modeling the BNML in HO Scale, Admin for the RailPro User Group, and owner of Precision Design Co.

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CRScott

Displaced Torontonian Modelling Toronto

My efforts are still stuck in the planning stages, but it is definitely Canadian. I'm working out the details for a little industrial park switching line based on actual trackage in Toronto, Ontario. 

Craig Scott

Edmonton, AB

http://smallempires.wordpress.com/

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Ian Stronach

Canadian Modelling

I model the Adirondack, Park Avenue and Westmount Subdivisions of the CPR's Montreal Terminals Division in September, 1969 in a 12' x 22' HO layout.  Operations, which are based on the employees timetable for the period, include CPR freights, transfers and passengers, plus the Penn Central, Delaware and Hudson, and Napierville Junction trains which came into Montreal over CPR rails.  The proliferation of affordable (not brass) CPR prototype equipment makes this much easier now than when I started 20 years ago.

Ian Stronach

Montreal, QC

Ian Stronach

Modeling the Canadian Pacific Railway Montreal Terminals Division in September, 1968 in HO.

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Brent Ciccone Brentglen

Interior of BC

I call my layout "Somewhere in BC" roughly based on the Kettle Valley Railway in the 1920's. I do have several geared steamers as well; Climax, Shay and a Heisler, but I haven't decided what road name they will be. While there is getting to be lots of stuff in the more modern realm, there isn't much outside of brass for Canadian stem.

 

Brent

Calgary

Brent Ciccone

Calgary

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AnEntropyBubble

Freelanced Interior of BC (BN/CP)

I model a freelanced interior of BC. I grew up next to the BN line that went from Kettle Falls WA to Nelson (ok - Troup) BC and had the CP over in Trail-Castlegar-Nelson and was influenced by both railroads.
 
Andrew
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MLW

Thx

Great start. Thank you

A good mix of BC, prairies and eastern Canada proto and freelance. BC and CP seems quite popular. Skiloff so far we are the only 2 modeling VIA.  Bill, you are borderline but we will take you haha

 

 

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Rene Gourley renegourley

Pembroke Southern

The Pembroke Southern, of which I am modelling the northern terminus ran from Pembroke to Golden Lake, Ontario, not Pembroke, Wales.

Actually, I almost wonder if there needs to be a thread on who is modelling the USA.  There seems to be a lot of Canadian content within these forums.

Cheers,

Rene'

Rene Gourley
Modelling Pembroke, Ontario in Proto:87

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mesimpson

Hudson Bay Railway

I am modeling the HBR between The Pas and Flin Flon in Manitoba.  Currently aiming at a 1996-99 timeframe.  It is a Canadian short line but it is owned by Omnitrax out of Colorado.  Even fewer people model this operation than model VIA... Of course I will have quite a few passenger trains including the "Hudson Bay" to Churchill as well as the Lynn Lake Mixed train and the Wabowden-Churchill mixed train (which will originate out of The Pas instead of Wabowden). 

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Mark Dance

Fairbanks Morse's last stomping grounds...

CPR's Kootenay area of south-eastern BC in 1970...(yes, there are two BN branches coming in from the South).

A close to prototypical mix of power...60% Canadian Locomotive Corp (FM), 30% General Motors Division (EMD) and 10% Montreal Locomotive Works (Alco) in a prototypical mix of paint schemes...Tuscan/Grey Block Lettering, Tuscan/Grey Script Lettering, Early PacMan.

md

Mark Dance, Chief Everything Officer - Columbia & Western Railway

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hirailer

Southern BC

Parts of CPR Boundary Subdivision from Nelson to Grand Forks. Also a fictitious jointly owned CP/CN coal hauler from the Rockies to Nelson called the Cross River Railway.

 

Mel

Having fun with RailPro

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Brian Clogg

BCR

I am modelling the Squamish subdivision of the British Columbia Railway.

Brian Clogg

British Columbia Railway

Squamish Subdivision

http://www.CWRailway.ca

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jostein

Northern Alberta Railways

I model the NAR in 1959, in the middle of the steam to diesel transition. Finally laying some track on a small layout, so there's exciting times ahead. Can't wait for my Rapido GMD-1s to arrive!

--
Jostein
 

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Bob Carswell

NAR

Everything on my freelance is CP or CN; although some of the rolling stock is flagged with US lines. Recently i added Northren Alberta Railways to further Canadianize things.
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barlloyd

Canadian Rail

I to model southern B.C. As a youngster I watched as tugs pulled log booms up Kootenay Lake fighting against the current up the west arm. The tug Melinda Jane took the car barge from Proctor slip up the lake towards Kaslo and points beyond dodging the lake ferries and the fishing boats. So some fictious CP-CN interchange depicting those memories. Had to remove last latout when we moved to Calgary so something new and fresh.

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Chris VanderHeide cv_acr

AC 1985

North half of the Algoma Central Railway in 1985.

 

My club of course, models the Canadian Pacific Sudbury region in the 1970-79 range.

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MLW

Good cross-section

Great feedback so far. Thank you. Looks like we have a good cross-section of modeling interest from coast to coast in this non-scientific discussion. It seems that BC and CP  modeling are the favorite thus far. Why would that be?

What is quite nice to see is modeling area out-of-the-beaten-path such has the Northern Alberta Railway, Algoma Central Railway and the Hudson Bay  Railway. I am sure there is more yet to be discovered.

You chose these area because of the newer offering (rolling stock/motive power) ? Or because of the great documentation available today (Canadianna RR Books etc.) ?

Or is it simply modeling/creating a corner of your world?

Thank again

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dreesthomas

why?

Capilano Timber Company for a (slight) family connection, and because it ran, more or less, in my boyhood back yard.  CP, as much as anything, because I'm in love with the D4g, a small and attractive ten-wheeler.

If I had to do it all over again, though, it would be Ontario Northland in the mid 70s because that was my job.  (I have an ONR 1300 tucked away in a drawer just in case, but don't tell anybody....)

David

 

 

David Rees-Thomas
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Jurgen Kleylein

Canadian content

Speaking for the WRMRC Sudbury Division, I can say we have been modelling CP since before it was possible to do so .

We started with CP as our prototype over 25 years ago.  Many of the signature diesels of the CPR were either difficult/crude kits, brass or just too much trouble.  Atlas' introduction of their RS11 gave us a starting point for a decent RS10 or RS18.  Kato's SD40 and SD40-2 helped us a great deal as well.  We have several fine diesel modellers which have helped flesh out much of the fleet while Canadian prototype pickings were still slim.

Rolling stock is at least as great a challenge.  We have appreciated models like the IMRC cylindrial hoppers, P2K newsprint cars and Walthers Canadian bulkhead flatcars, among many more, which have helped make modelling CP a much easier job.  The addition of Branchline, Intermountain and TLT Canadian prototype 40 foot boxcars has also been appreciated, since CP still rostered 40 footers by the tens of thousands in the 1970s.

My hat is off to those who have modelled CN over the past few decades, since that road is an order of magnitude more difficult to do well.  CN has had many modified and custom loco models over the years, and it has only been in the last few years that those have been available commercially.  I think most of us do it because we have an affection for our local transcons, and like to see them come to life in minature again.

Jurgen

HO Deutsche Bundesbahn circa 1970

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Geared

Branch line

Modelling CP somewhere on Vancouver Island with a logging branch wholly owned by CP, but still under it's own corporate name.

Roy

Geared is the way to tight radii and steep grades. Ghost River Rwy. "The Wet Coast Loggers"

 

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CP Doug

Can Pacific in New Brunswick

Fictitious freelance of a New Brunswick sub with freight and passengers service. End points being Halifax and Montreal.

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sd40-2fan

ONR/CP derived layout

My railway is the Kawartha Lakes Railway, which Is a fictional shortline, which bridges operations between the two Class 1 operators in southern Ontario, allowing service between CP’s Havelock Subdivision and CP’s former line from Ottawa to Sudbury. While the railway primarily serves several small to medium sized industries located in the rural locales of Ontario, it’s connection with the CP and ONR allows another route to service north to south traffic flow without traveling as far east as the busy Montreal corridor. Throughout the KLR, I tried to incorporate the history of the area into the areas that I modeled. While certain key features or aspects couldn’t be modeled due to size constraints, I tried to include enough key industries for realistic operations, without making the layout too busy. The layout runs between 6-8 trains per day, excluding passenger operations, as well as interchange traffic coming off of CP and ONR. The basis for modeling this was my summers spent in the Peterborough area growing up and a strong interest in the Ontario Northland.

Ken Stroebel

Kawartha Lakes Railway

Editor - Ontario Northland Railway Historical & Technical Society

Ontario Model Rail Blog - http://ontariomodelrail.blogspot.com/ 

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MLW

BC by far

The number one area of predilection by far is BC  with  8 people

Followed by the Prairies with 5, Ontario 4 (Sudbury, Toronto, Pembroke) Quebec 1 (Montreal Westmount Sub) and NB with 1.

That is interesting since the majority of modelers are in eastern Canada.

 

 

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