Bill Brillinger

There goes the rest of my afternoon...

There I was making great progress on the layout and I happened to check the TMTV site to see if the new show segment was posted.

Not only is the new show posted, but 2 more Mike Confalone videos are up! (from the Modeling outside the box series)

oh well!

Bill Brillinger

Modeling the BNML in HO Scale, Admin for the RailPro User Group, and owner of Precision Design Co.

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crrcoal

Why?

Got a question; why are vids being shown on TMTV that I have previously purchased?? Mike Confalones videos on the St Regis paper mill and Joe F's scenery vids.  IMHO that is double charging customers for the same product is it not? Would love to hear how this is justified. Thank you.

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joef

Video archive

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Got a question; why are vids being shown on TMTV that I have previously purchased?? Mike Confalones videos on the St Regis paper mill and Joe F's scenery vids.  IMHO that is double charging customers for the same product is it not? Would love to hear how this is justified. Thank you.

More than a few TMTV subscribers have not seen these Model Trains Video titles, plus we hear from some TMTV members that they like the fact all these videos will now be at their fingertips.

The intention ever since the TrainMasters idea was formed a year ago was to move the Model Trains Video video archive to TMTV as a convenience for those who currently own the videos and as new content you don't have to purchase for those who don't.

Also, do not overlook the fact you've had all this DVD archive content for years already and have been able to benefit from it, and now this content will be at your fingertips on your smartphone or tablet. All for less than the price of a sandwich each month. Sounds like a bargain to us.
 

SAVE YOURSELF SOME MONEY

Now that you know this is the trajectory for the Model Trains Video archive, if you don't own any of those video titles, then just wait. They're ALL coming to TMTV.

Finally, Model Trains Video will be doing new titles this year - if you're a TMTV subscriber, no need to buy the DVDs unless you really want DVDs. Just wait, and those new titles will also be coming to TMTV.
 

ITS A BENEFIT

We see this as an extra benefit to TMTV subscribers. The new TMTV content is what you are paying for (and we feel it's worth every penny), all this other archive content is a free bonus - at least that's how we look at it. If we put all the NEW TMTV content on DVDs and sold it to you, each month would be its own DVD, and you'd be paying $200+ per year for it.

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

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crrcoal

Ok..

Thank you for the quick reply Joe. Ok I can see the "older" content such as your Siskiyou vids but the newer stuff like that from Mike C I'm not so sure I agree with. Maybe they could've been released to TMTV further in the year or so.

So if I understand this correctly; there will be no more stand alone vids such as Mike C's stuff, it will always be released on TMTV?

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joef

Here's how it works

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So if I understand this correctly; there will be no more stand alone vids such as Mike C's stuff, it will always be released on TMTV?

Okay, you know how Hollywood movies work, right?

- Movie is released to theaters
- About 6 months later, the movie comes out on DVD

Those who can't wait will go see the movie now. Those who can wait will get the movie on DVD. Some will see the movie and will also get the DVD.

Here's how our videos will work

- DVD comes out from Model Trains video
- Same video comes to TrainMasters TV about 6 months later

Some will want the video on DVD regardless. Others will just wait for the video to come to TMTV. Others, who are TMTV subscribers, will get the DVD even though they know it will be on TMTV too because they like having DVD.

The last video we released on DVD was volume 2 of Mike Confalone's Scenery modeling outside the box, which was release 16 months ago now (Nov 2012).

Anything older than 6 months is now a candidate for going to TMTV. If anyone feels like they're being double charged because of this approach, then I am happy to refund your TMTV subscription.

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

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jcoop

I am in the camp

That joined TMTV so I would not have to purchase and store those videos.  Figure even if I didn't get anything useful from the video I still got my moneys worth.

 

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

John

 

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Dave O

Double charged ...

Not sure how anyone could see this method as double charging for the dvd videos that have been uploaded to TMTV.  Perhaps they are upset because they feel that those who did not purchase the dvd's are getting a better deal as they can now view them under their TMTV subscription?  True, but technically, it is costing them $5 (or whatever it is) per month to view those videos ... without the subscription, they cannot view them.  Those who purchase the dvd can view the video at any time, whether or not they have a TMTV subscription.

When TMTV was being promoted, the 'promise' was 61 minutes of new content per month.  It seems that promise is being kept ... anything beyond that, is simply gravy.

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joef

Yep

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When TMTV was being promoted, the 'promise' was 61 minutes of new content per month.  It seems that promise is being kept ... anything beyond that, is simply gravy.

Yes, I just looked and we added 2 hrs 10 min of all-new content in Feb, plus 66 min of "new" MTV archive content.

I also belong to MRVP -  I just counted and they added 49 min of new video in the last 30 days, of which 10 min was house promotion. Many of their new videos are 2-3 mins long, which allows showing a lot of new titles, but it's hard to do much of substance in just 2-3 mins.

MRVP is $44.95/yr for non-subscribers, TMTV is $55/yr for non-subscribers.

MRVP is $62.95/yr to get it and a sub to MR mag, TMTV + MRH mag is $44/yr with the coupon code.

You do the per minute cost to see who has the best deal ...

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

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crrcoal

No Joe

there is no need for a refund. I see what you are saying but I am a bit disappointed. Dave O perhaps said it better about folks getting a better deal. Oh well what ya gonna do? Watch videos I suppose! 

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reddogpt

I'm waiting too.

I see your point, crrcoal. I bought the first 2 Confalone videos but now will wait for the new ones to come to Trainmasters.

I will say that having those first videos on the iPad to watch during lunch or on the road was awesome. I got more work done on my layout than ever before after being inspired by the videos.

Really, the videos are so well done and informative and they're less than the cost of general model railroading books you would buy from Kalmbach or Carstens. And no one can deny how much better it is to see the process in action as opposed to reading about it.

Pete

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