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Moderator 4,902 posts Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
Bill Brillinger

Took this photo in Morris today. I think they are lost.


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My best guess here is that this is bridge traffic.

While it is plausible that the BNML might use BNSF motive power if needed, the entire train seems to be comprised of BN hoppers plus a few tank cars, so the freight is not typical of what we see being switched
on the BNML on a daily basis... bridge traffic is my story and I'm sticking to it!

I guess this means I can let my BNSF power out of Noyes once in a while.

Anybody aware of any major BNSF line closures in North Dakota or Montana right now?

- Bill

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BOK Prolific poster 1,120 posts
BOK

Hi Bill:   I am guessing

Hi Bill:

I am guessing it's merely a result of "pool power" which is the use of another railroad's locomotives in any service ( run through, local, switching,etc.) on a foreign road to pay back horse power hours to the that railroad. However, in this case it might be the case of  BNSF power provided as a contracturual arrangement for moving a grain train from a country terminal on a foreign railroad to an export terminal on the BNSF.

Not very unusual to see foreign power on any class 1 or regional railroad these days and allows a modeler the choice of doing the same.

Barry
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Tim Schwartz tschwartz Super User 279 posts
Tim Schwartz tschwartz

CN BNSF

good question to post to the manitoba Saskatchewan group on yahoo. Since they interchange, maybe it was easier for BNSF to bring the cars up this time.

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Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
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The BNML is owned by BNSF. But crew, equipment, and track are provided by CN.

This train is heading south from Winnipeg back toward the BNSF at Noyes MN.

The BNML will often run an extra train for increased interchange traffic, but there have been a lot of weird movements lately. There is no way this train represents normal interchange traffic in it's makeup and there is evidence of significantly increased traffic overall.

I still think it's a re-route.

Tim, do you have a link to that group on yahoo?

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ctxmf74 Super User 15,912 posts
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I think they are lost.

check the news, there might be a line closure somewhere and this train is a detour? ...DaveB

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Tim Schwartz tschwartz Super User 279 posts
Tim Schwartz tschwartz

Manitoba group

mb-skrails-subscribe@yahoogroups.com The owner of the group was an engineer on the Letalier (sp) for a bit.

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gonzo Regular poster 204 posts
gonzo

I wonder if that's a CN

I wonder if that's a CN crew?

The Paterson (?) elevator out by the West Perimeter seems to load only BN / BNSF cars and they have so much grain it is tarped in the field. It is serviced by the CNR even tho their tracks have been torn up and they run over the CPR to get there. Maybe there's just too much traffic to keep up with, I'm curious now too.

Side note: followed the old Miami sub last weekend, sad to see it gone! Still lots of OTM left behind.
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Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
Bill Brillinger

Interesting

That sounds very likely Rico.

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Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
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Answers from MB-SK Rails Group

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That grain train was run by CN crews between Noyes MN and Winnipeg.  It ran north up the CN's Lettelier sub and then went WEST on the Rivers sub to the BNSFML yard on Lindsay Ave and then north up the CPR's Lariviere sub into the CPR main yard.  The power was moved to the other end and the train was run out to the NM Paterson grain elevator at Lilyfield on the CPR mainline.  The CN crew then took the train past the PDC station and attempted to spot the NMP grain elevator where it got stuck in the snow and they had Inkster Ave blocked for almost 4 hours.

When the train was loaded by NMP, it was brought back through the CPR main yard and sent over to CN's Symington yard through the St. Boniface Paddington interchange by a CN crew.  The train was then run south back to Noyes MN by CN crews and was handed back to the BNSF there.

M A P

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Tim Schwartz tschwartz Super User 279 posts
Tim Schwartz tschwartz

And now we know

Well that could provide a very interesting operating session "story" for you once you are up and running end to end.

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Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
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a very interesting operating session

Yup - That's what I'm thinking!

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Tim Schwartz tschwartz Super User 279 posts
Tim Schwartz tschwartz

More of the story

I think this is the route referred to.

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Bill Brillinger Moderator 4,902 posts
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@Rico

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Still lots of OTM left behind.

OTM ??

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