Russ Bellinis

I've been gone for a few days and then had the computer desk covered for painting for a day and a half.  I finally got it uncovered and came back to check out the new posts on the blogs and message boards.  I log in, go to new posts and when I go back to "Recent posts", I find that the board has dropped my log in and I need to log in all over again.  It has happened on 3 successive posts.  Is there a new glitch in the web site?

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Dave K skiloff

Haven't had that trouble

Haven't had a problem.  What browser are you using?  It may have got updated and/or a setting change caused the behaviour.   

Dave
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joef

This happens because

This apparently happens when your session cookie gets corrupted.

Go into your browser cookies list and delete the model-railroad-hobbyist.com cookie. Then close your browser, open it up fresh, and try again. That should solve your problem.

If you don't know how to delete a cookie in your browser, just google the name of your favorite browser and "delete cookies". For example:

Firefox delete cookies

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Russ Bellinis

I'm using Firefox.

I haven't had any upgrades or changes since my last time here.  My procedure right now is to go to the recent post board, log in, open the first new post, read it, click on post index, log in again, read next new post, repeat.  Fortunately the browser or something is remembering my log in info so I just need to click on the "log in" button instead of having to retype my username and password.

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Rio Grande Dan

Russ run your anti-virus you

Russ run your anti-virus you may have a Trojan horse on your computer messing with your cookies. I had this problem a couple weeks ago and did a total scan of my computer and found the Trojan then deleted it and haven't had the log on problem since.

Dan

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Russ Bellinis

My anti virus progam is scanning now

The anti virus program has been scanning for at least an hour maybe 2.  I'll see what happens when it finishes.  I never log off, and when I came back to the board just now, I was still logged on.  When I went to "Rescent Posts" index I was dropped.

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Russ Bellinis

Thanks Joe,

For some reason the board skipped ove your response when I clicked on "new posts".  I found it when I went back through the thread.  My virus scan is complete.  I went to google and found out how to delete the cookies from Firefox and deleted them.  It still did it.  I went back to Firefox to check on my cookies and it had deleted them since I told it to delete all cookies, but I deleted MRH cookies again.  It showed them gone, yet when I opened the web page again, I was still logged on.  I went to the "Recent Posts" and it dropped me.  I logged back on, opened this thread, read some posts and hit the "post index" button and it dropped me again.  My virus scan showed no problems as well.  I've repeated deleting cookies twice, but it still drops me.  I also did not find anyplace to log out.  I don't care about logging out since I don't log out of sites that I visist regularly anyway.

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Scarpia

Duplicate

Russ, can you duplicate the behavior in another browser on your machine, like IE?

 


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Russ Bellinis

It seems to be a Firefox issue.

It works correctly in I.E.  I'm frustrated by web browsers.  I was using I.E. for years, but my computer would keep locking up and I would need to shut it down and reboot.  Firefox was reccommended to me, and it solved that problem.  I keep running into new problems now with Firefox. 

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Scarpia

Presuming that it's new

Presuming that it is a newer updated version of Firefox, maybe try forcing the browser to remember the cookie?

Go to  tools> options> privacy

click on "exceptions",

paste in the URL of this site, and  click "allow".

Fire fox should remember the cookie.

This sounds like a privacy setting.


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feldman718

Try rebooting your system

I had that problem a long time ago. It finally went away after I removed the cookie and rebooted my system. I may have done something else as well, but it's been awhile but don't remember what else I did.

Have you tried reinstalling Firefox?

Irv

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jeffshultz

Shut down browser before deleting cookie

Russ,

Not sure about this one but it has occurred to me that when I run programs that modify browser settings like that they insist on the browser being shut down first - or the old settings might get put back in place.

It's a thought.

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BlueHillsCPR

This happened to me before...

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Not sure about this one but it has occurred to me that when I run programs that modify browser settings like that they insist on the browser being shut down first - or the old settings might get put back in place.

It's a thought.

Yes!  Delete the cookies, close browser app, then try again.  If the cookies are truly gone I think Firefox should ask if you want the app to remember the login info for next time.

IIRC, This happened back when MRH switched servers and it was an ISP routing/updating process that took some time before everybody could remain logged in.

Whatever you do, don't switch back to IE! )

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Russ Bellinis

I have to have I.E. on my computer.

That is because my wife ocassionally may need to log in to her mail box at work or the web site for her hospital and the web site and her hospital mail box only work with I.E.  For whatever reason, the I.T. people at Tenet made everything exclusively I.E.

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BlueHillsCPR

Same here

The web portal that my wife uses to login to her work network is only IE friendly as well.

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joef

Why IE gets the nod

As a web developer, I can tell you why IE gets the nod for corporate applications. Just look at the usage stats:

65% - Various flavors of IE
23% - various flavors of Firefox
 4% - Safari
 4% - Google Chrome
 3% - Opera
 1% - Others (Mozilla, Konqueror, SeaMonkey)

Reality is each browser has its quirks and the more browsers your IT organization supports on its internal apps, the more complex their job becomes. Since browsers are free, it makes a lot of sense for an IT organization to insist they only support one browser for their internal apps - and IE often gets the nod because it's already going to be the browser of choice for 2/3rds of your audience.

If you have applications that face the general public, however, insisting on only one browser for your web site is a much harder sell. Instead, you just deal with all the browser quirkiness as a part of life.

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Rio Grande Dan

Russ I believe you need your

Russ I believe you need your own Computer. I wish you lived closer to Me I'd give you one. I have a wall full I don't use and at least 3 have XP loaded on them. How far from North west Virginia do you live? Or if you can come up with around $350.00 New Egg has some NEW bare bones computers with Vista and are internet ready for sale.

Dan

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dfandrews

browsers, & Vista

We have IE and Firefox at home.  For a couple of aps we have to use IE.  Everything else is Firefox.

And yes, here on my City computer it's I.E.  (although all the I.T. department techs use Firefox on their personal computers).

Dan:  is it appropriate to wish Vista on anyone?

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Rio Grande Dan

The new Vista is called

The new Vista is called Windows "7" and it's Vista with the bugs stripped out and no mater what they call it it's still Windows and can be fixed.

Dan

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BlueHillsCPR

Vista aka Windows X

Actually, I am using Vista on my "designed for Vista" laptop and it's not too bad...once you tweak it back to looking like XP and run some registry hacks that is.  I also put it on our older laptop which is not "designed for vista".  I had to fool the OS into accepting old video drivers because there are no Vista drivers for it but the system works well enough with double the RAM it had before.

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The new Vista is called Windows "7" and it's Vista with the bugs stripped out and no mater what they call it it's still Windows and can be fixed.

Dan

LOL..."all the bugs stripped out"...so it's Unix now? Muwahahaha!

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Russ Bellinis

My wife and I have our own separate computers,

But she may occassionally need to use mine, so we keep I.E. on both computers.  I just stripped my cookies from MRH, shut down my browser, rebooted my high speed internet connection and then rebooted my computer, and so far it appears to have fixed the problem.  I'll find out as soon as I post this and go back to post index.

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Russ Bellinis

SUCCESS!

Finally!

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joef

Inquiring minds want to know ...

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SUCCESS!

Finally!

Russ, do tell!

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Scarpia

Browsers

That's an interesting stat, Joe, on IE's market penetration. I don't doubt it, but I looked at my own site's stats, and heres  what I got for 34k hits over a monthly period:

Fire Fox - 162297  or 47.3%

MS internet Explorer - 151348 or 44.1%

Safari - 11523 or 3.3%

(Original data table removed)

What this might indicate is that hobbyists arn't mainstream? Who knows, but I found it an intersting comparision.  IE is the only approved broswer for a lot of applications, especially Microsoft ones, and whlle your point on support is very valid, I think it's also somewhat lazy.

There are only a couple of real broswers out there (namely Firefox and IE for Windows, Firefox and Safari for Mac) and I often cannot understand why large companies who sell 6 and seven figure software products cannot get their code to work well on this limited set - yet the grungiest porn site can make their stuff work on a Commedore 64. Maybe folks need to have less meetings.

Per Windows 7 for you Microsoft FanBoyz, I'd recommend it. How a company with the resources and skill sets like Microsoft can put out such poor products such as Vista is just beyond me - I guess there's a reason it's often called the "GM of Computing", but Windows 7 is finally half way decent.   We've been running flavors of it for over a year, and it's what Vista should have been when it came out. If folks think Vista wasn't a total failure, well, the fact that they brought out 7 so fast behind, and extended XP support, is a clear indicator of it's lack of adoption. Most folks I know usually apply the XP upgrade to thier vista installs.

Cheers!


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Dave K skiloff

One thing to consider with your stats

I would suggest their are a number of things that can be read into your stats, Scarpia.  Are those unique hits in your stats, or total hits?  If its total hits, do YOU count in those stats?  My guess is you have a tonne of hits on your own website using FireFox, which could skew your results.  Extrapolate that and if you have a few users using FireFox that are frequent visitors, your stats on that browser will be skewed.  Just a thought. 

Dave
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