edfhinton

So in between working recently on finishing the main level benchwork and laying a bit more track, I decided to play with embellishing the track plan in XTrackCad with some rough idea of where roads, buildings, and some of the umpteen zillion trees (it is NH after all) would go.  Below is what I've come up with so far in terms of laying some of the non-track elements over the track plan for the main level (learning some more XTrackCad - still not great at it).  As much as I could I tried to mimic the actual roads and building locations in the visible areas with some compression and of course taking layout geometry into account for some adjustments (like the curved road in Bartlett at upper left where the entire track and road curve are straight in reality - and excepting that the wye was not in that spot in reality.)  

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This definitely gets me excited about getting to some of the scenicking later this winter (once I have continuous mainline+staging running operational), as it really feels like more of a layout even just looking at the effect this stuff has on the XTrackCad plan.

And wow did just this little bit give me my first sense of just how many trees I will need.  This isn't even the upper Crawford Notch portion of the layout, and just what I did on XTrackCad for trees on this diagram is several hundred trees.  I'm guessing over the next few years I will need literally several thousand trees since so much of the upper level is nothing but tracks and tree-covered scenery.

-Ed

 

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Proprietor - Northern New England Scenic (V3). N scale NH B&M Eastern and western coastal routes in the mid-1950s.

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wrr2006

Food for thought

Hello Ed,

Do you really need that many trees?  If you can arrange for the first 2 or 3 rows of trees to form a view block so that it's not possible to see further in to the forest, then the remainder of the trees can be represented by just the crowns of the trees.  Tony Koester wrote about this in one of his columns in Model Railroader.  So, thousands of tree tops, are much easier to represent than thousands of trees....lichen puff balls covered with appropriate colored ground foam for decidouus trees, conical shapes covered with dark greens for conifers.

 

Just a thought.


Bill

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Benny

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That's the right number of trees, if you want it to look best, you do it all the way, not half of the way...

M.J.F. has a couple great tips on making inexpensive realistic looking trees.  I'd build the layout and then fill in the forests as time permits...

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edfhinton

Desidous versus pine... tree numbers

For deciduous areas, I think the 3 to 4 rows then canopy look makes sense.  That may work for me in areas around Madison and the wetland which has a fair amount of deciduous on the edges of the wetland.  But most of northern NH is dominated by conifers.  I'm a little less certain about how well it will work on mountainsides with the conifers.  I will have plenty of area to experiment with.  But I'm also ok with it taking me several years doing small areas at a time.  I figure as the layout progresses and I start working on trees in the lower level where they are not quite as dominant, I should get enough practice to get pretty good and quick at it by the time I get to the massive tree counts on the second level from Arethusa falls past Crawford Notch.

-Ed

 

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Proprietor - Northern New England Scenic (V3). N scale NH B&M Eastern and western coastal routes in the mid-1950s.

https://nnescenicmodelrr.com

 

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ctxmf74

"Do you really need that many trees?"

Not if you model a clear cut operation? :> )  but then you gotta model stumps and slash and erosion so it's probably a wash when it comes to effort?......DaveB

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