rmendell

Ok after spending most of the long weekend I have made some upgrades to the Brent quarry Scene.  Changes include constructing 4 Eastern White pines.  The most time consuming part, but what I think makes the biggest difference.  Filling in the tree line at the top of the face.  I added a few bare super trees and some super trees flocked with static grass.  I also added both bare and flocked bushes made with bits of super trees.  I added a structure even though it is close to the rock face.  I had it mostly built and it gave me a place to put a company sign.  I also added another sign, buried in a snow bank at the far end of the quarry to help make a view break between the quarry and river just to the right.  I added a pile of large rocks, and another pile of smaller gravel. And to top it off I blasted the rock face with a 3/4" chisel, after some encouragement from Mike Confalone and Dave B.  Thanks for the prototype reference Mike I need to get out and take some pictures!  I had to re-chisel the face 3 times to get the colouring right on the rock face.  The granite in Northern Ontario is still pretty dark even when blasted. The first couple of tries it started out to white and went black quickly.  I finally got the colour close to what I was looking for by using white artist oil and then hitting it with grey powder while it was still wet.  I still have to get the loader and truck weathered up, but I have been working on this scene for what seams months and I need to go build a couple of freight cars to get my sanity back.  Thanks again to everyone who provided feedback and suggestions, its sure has helped this newby building his first layout.

brent1.jpg Brent2.jpg brent3.jpg brent4.jpg 

Ryan M

Algonquin Railway

Ryan

http://algonquinrailway.blogspot.ca/

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mike.h

Looks awesome, masterpiece of

Looks awesome, masterpiece of work.

10/10 points

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avrinnscale

Fantastic work!

Ryan,

This is looking great!  Those Eastern White pines might have been a lot of work, but they certainly help make the scene.

This is not a criticism, so please do not take it that way, but looking at your rock face I see a number of cris-cross carves into the rock.  My experience with quarries is that they drill vertical shafts into the rock to either set charges or break it off in chunks.  The lines generally are all up and down, not cross-hatched.

Keep up the good work!

Geof

Aroostook Valley Railroad in N scale

Geof Smith

Modeling northern New England in N scale. 

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ctxmf74

"vertical shafts into the rock to either set charges "

The limestone quarry for the Davenport cement plant would blast about once a week. They drilled holes with a mobile drill rig and placed charges then would blast about 200 feet wide at a time( never measured it but I've watched the blast from across the pit).The rocks ended up in large chunks that they would load into big quarry trucks and haul about 1/4-1/2 mile to the crusher. Once crushed it rode a conveyor belt about 3  miles or so to the plant. Before they built the conveyor they hauled the rock in a neat little train  pulled by an electric narrow gauge motor.....DaveB

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rmendell

Criss Cross drilling

Geoff,

I put the drill holes in a Cris-Cross pattern as this is what I have witnessed here in Ontario.  Might not be standard everywhere but is what they do when they blast Granite to make a right of way for roads etc in NorthernOntario. I am heading up to a friends cottage in a couple of weeks and will try and take some reference pictures.  Thanks for looking.

 

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stewart tonkin

here here to cross drilling

As a powder monkey i concur to cross drilling, especially when using chemical expansion methods so you don't block the quarry up with blast fall out 

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mesimpson

it depends on era

Whether you have vertical holes or cross drilled holes may depend on the era you model.  If you are modeling anything pre 1980ish you would likely see more vertical holes due to equipment limitations, more modern sites would likely have cross drilled holes.  Many of the outcrops along the Trans-Canada Highway in NW Ontario  in the Kenora area and the cuts you see on the way up to Flin Flon in Manitoba have (if my recollection is correct) a lot of vertical holes on their faces, at least on the older cuts that were done back in the 1960's and 70's.  In BC there is a bunch of new blasted cuts around Golden that have long vertical blast holes on the faces. I would suspect the blasting patterns in rock cuts and quarries would be different as they are serving different purposes. 

It may also depend on what they are trying to do with the rock from the quarry.  If they want larger blocks you will most likely see discrete lines of vertical holes to pop out big chunks, or if they want a finer crushed product you would see closely spaced holes possibly in a variety of orientations.  If you are shipping product using hoppers as seen in your photos they would likely blast it as fine as possible at the face to reduce crushing requirements.

I'm not a powder monkey but a geologist who has worked in some mines and quarries. 

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mesimpson

forgot to mention

I forgot to mention you have a really nicely done quarry there.  My layout will have a quarry/gravel pit, but my modeled area has less relief. 

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OhioMike

Enough room?

I too like the look you have achieved here. But....did quarry's simply blast cliff sides to gravel? Most had some form of crusher on site didnt they? The reason i ask is that you havent left much room for one between the cliff and the tracks. I plan to place a quarry on a layout as well and this is important to know for me. I guess it could be simply larger boulders placed in gons with a front end loader/crane and taken somewhere else for crushing right?

Mike

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rmendell

Mike

The crusher and conveyer just won't fit in my scene, so I will just leave it to imagination or possibly put in a photo backdrop in behind the quarry building.  Not to sure yet but will keep working on it.  

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Eugene Griffin EGRX

Eastern White Pines

Great scene, it is amazing how four trees can add to the realism of the scene. Would you give a scenery newbie a hint as to what you used to make the Eastern White pines and the method? My wire brush forest needs some SPRUCING up. Thanks Eugene
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ctxmf74

"I plan to place a quarry on a layout as well"

Probably the easiest way to do it would be to model the crusher and silos and car loading track then represent the quarry with a photo or painted backdrop. The quarry could be a 1/4 mile or more from the tracks . Google up Aromas ca. and look at the Granite Rock quarry. The car loading area is adjacent to the UP tracks and the quarry extends back into the hills....DaveBranum  

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OhioMike

Another here on MRH

Kirkifer has a nice quarry layout...not sure of the scale though.

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rmendell

Pine Trees

Eugene,

The Pine Trees are made using the method Mike Confalone demonstrates in his Modeling Outside the BOX DVD vol 2.

If anyone is interested I could do a blog entry on how I make them.

Mike,

The link you provided does not exist.

 

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