dehanley

Following my advice in the Assistant Editors thoughts, I finished the garage and started working on the backdrop. Given the environment that the layout must reside, I built my backdrop with coved corners and coved overhead. This led to making what I term Gothic corners. The Gothic corners turned out to be more work than I anticipated. But more than that a little later on.  I began the backdrop construction by installing the shelf brackets and cutting curved sections so that I could cove the backdrop

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I used a lid from a 5 gal bucket to mark the radius for the masonite to back up against. 

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Once the pieces were cut out I cut them apart on my table saw.

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I had two of the local modelers, Dennis Drury and Jim Petro, help me hang the masonite. This is definitely more than a one man job. I discovered that the radius I used for the arcs was to small. We could not get the masonite to form a tight enough radius to snug up to the arc. It was close, I probably should have used an 8" or 9" radius. The compression of the board was enough that I am not worried about the masonite moving.

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For the gothic corners I initially attempted to make it with one piece of hardboard. It didn't work. I ended up cutting 1-1/2" strips of masonite and began nailing them up. The small strips work, but it is a cut and fit for each piece. No two are the same. I used my brad nailer to install the individual pieces. After the masonite pieces were in place I used fiber mesh to cover the pieces.

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Once all of the joints were taped I used drywall compound to fill in the joints. I am not 100% sure that this is the best choice. That is part of the purpose of the layout to determine what works as well as what does not. Time will tell if this was a good choice or not. One of the problems that I did discover very quickly was that the unsupported edge was wavy. While I had plan to install a valance the 2" x 2" boards that the masonite is attached to did not seem to have enough material to provide a good anchor for the valance.

So I decided to kill two birds with one stone. I ripped down some three pieces of  3/4" plywood on the table saw. While the saw was still out, I got the stack dado blade out and cut dado's in the plywood to fit over the 2" x 2" pieces. The three inch strips were screwed to the 2" x 2" and the masonite was nailed to the 3/4" strips. Once this work and the joints were filled, It was time to paint.

I painted the backdrop with Bher Little Pond blue. Once the first coat of paint was applied I made a 50/50 mix  of Little Pond blue and white to make a lighter blue. Working in about 4' sections I rolled on about 12" of the light blue mix and painted a 4" strip of the Little Pond blue and then used a brush to blend the colors together.

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After the paint had dried it is time to paint the clouds clouds. I began by taking the light blue and making a slightly lighter blue by adding 25% white and 75% light blue. This was stippled on with a 3" brush to form the base of the clouds. Once that was done, I made mix of 25% light blue and 75% white. This was then stippled on with a 1" artist brush. I highlighted the the tops of the blue base of the cloud with this color.  Finally I painted the tops of the clouds with Bher Steam White. I used one of the sample sizes that cost on $2.99 at Home Depot.

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I plan for this to be the finished backdrop. I have some ideas for lighting that preclude anything else. Again this is a part of my less is more philosophy.  So until next time have fun

 

 

Don Hanley

Proto-lancing a fictitious Erie branch line.

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wp8thsub

I like it

Looks like you're off to a good start.  The clouds turned out well.

Rob Spangler MRH Blog

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robteed

Gothic Corner

Your"Gothic Corner" looks really good after painted. Great idea.

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dfandrews

Late hint

Looks like it's a little late, but here's a hint when bending masonite.

I have used a spray bottle with water.  I spray the water on the back side of the masonite, with enough to wet, but not so it's runny.  I wait a few minutes, and then install.  I have easily done 9-10" radius solo, and have done smaller pieces at about 7½" radius. 

Oh, yeah, and I always use 1/8" un-tempered masonite whenever there's bending involved.

I love those clouds.  They are just enough to tell the story, but not detract from the railroad.  (I didn't attempt such a thing; I just have a uniform light, light blue to simulate coastal hazy blue sky.)

Don - CEO, MOW super.

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dehanley

Late hint

Thanks for the complements

Don I did spray water on the back side of the masonite but maybe I didn't wait long enough and should have allowed it to soak in a bit before attempting to bend it. Maybe next time

 

Don Hanley

Proto-lancing a fictitious Erie branch line.

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Fiddler66

Youhav e a great....

...start on your railroad. I really like the curve of the backdrop. The corner solution is very good. I will try to remember that if I try your style backdrop. 

Don, wetting the back of the Masonite is a idea that I have not thought of using for bending. I will keep that tip in mind too.

 

Jim

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DandHGUY

Coved Corners

Hello Don,

I installed coved corners also know to me as a photo sync about twenty five years ago on my N Scale layout. I used a cardboard based product that was very popular for back drops back then. I had to find a company that supplied this board to the theatre industry for use on their sets. It has held up for 25 year without having any real problems.

I did use a much larger radius for the corners.around 15 inches. It was a lot of work, but it looks great and makes the corners disappear in photographs . The corner cove was built up over fiberglass window screen material, and covered with drywall mud.

Howard

  

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Parlourtrain

Building a backdrop

I am in the process of building a new two level layout and like what you did for the lower back drop.  My question is - once you have all the lower level backdrop done, what is your plan for wiring the shelf track for power.  Switches, signals, blocks Etc.

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Proto48Patrick

Late to the party.   I like

Late to the party.

I like the coved "gothic" corners, that's what I am going to do but I will use 1/4" flexible drywall.   I am currently tearing out all the hardboard I used on the entire layout since I cannot seem to prevent it from cracking in my air controlled finished basement.  I've finally had enough and its all coming out.  I can't imagine what that stuff will do in your garage, I only hope your experience is much better than mine.

Patrick Welch

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robteed

Plaster rather then joint compound

I think if I did a Gothic corner I would use Plaster. What you find in a lot of older buildings with curved molding is they are molded from plaster. A quote from another site "This is actually something you can do yourself with a little practice, and if you mess up it's cheap and easy to start over. You could run wood crown molding on the straight sections of wall and fill in the curved sections with molded plaster. It's easy to make the tool, you cut the pattern of the profile you want in a piece of sheet metal and use it as a screed to form the plaster into the proper shape. "

I have a place in my house we call "The dome Room". I installed a 10ft diameter metal mesh satellite dish in the ceiling. Stuck a 1" pipe in the center of the dish (There just happened to be a 1" hole there ) put a 2"x6" block on the floor and drilled a 1" hole to hold the other end of the pipe.  Cut a piece of 1/4" luwan board shaped to the contour of the dish. attached it to the pole so it could spin inside the dish. Then sprayed 800lbs of plaster onto the ceiling while spinning the Luwan form. Wife thought I was NUTs! As it turned out its one of the coolest rooms in the house.

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Al Brough

Very neat idea, I will have

Very neat idea, I will have to remember it!

A note on tempered Masonite, it is soaked in linseed oil which is then cooked under heat and pressure making it very hard and fairly water resistant. 1/10" Masonite is some times available in South Africa which is very easy to bend.

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Al Brough
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ezio

Backdrop

Nicely done!

Geoff

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