Thinking outside the box (or off the flat)

Mushroom design is just another tool in a track planner's potential arsenal for increasing the amount of layout you can get into a given space.  It's similar to dual level in some ways, but it requires more engineering, so it's not an easy way to get more layout.  It also effectively divides your layout into separate areas by virtue of the different floor heights.  With traditional dual level construction, you're just stacking more layout on top of what you already can do, but the mushroom borrows space from your existing level and mulitplies it by about 50% maybe and nests the new part within the old in a way which makes it invisible to the rest of the layout.  If you look at Joe Fugate's Siskiyou line, he basically has two layouts in his space, the mainline and the Coos Bay branch.  Except in the transition area by the helix, you can't see one line from the other.

Joe has written that he likes the idea mainly because both levels of the layout can be seen from near eye level, which he feels is the best height for appreciating a layout, which is true in many ways.  I, on the other hand, have nothing against dual level construction or seeing trains anywhere from 36 inches off the floor to as high as 60 inches; I might even go higher under the right circumstances.  I have combined the virtues of dual level with mushroom construction to produce a design with as many as 6 levels stacked on top of each other, but only 2 can be seen at a time from any specific aisle:This is a very extreme example of what can be done.  Whenever you start looking at multi-floor designs, you have to be very careful; we have several construction professionals involved in our club, so everything is engineered safely:  basically, don't try this at home, kids. Nevertheless, it does show how effectively you can use the vertical space to maximize how much layout you can get in given floor area.

The thing I like most about the mushroom is that separation of the various parts of the layout.  When a crew is up on the branchline at McKerrow or Espanola, they are in a different world from Sudbury Yard, even though the yard is only a few feet away.  As we continue our construction the various parts of the mainline become ever more distant from one another, and not just from the point of view of a train getting from place to place; there's a lot of walking to do in our building already and there will be more before we're done.  Where a traditional design would have given us maybe 4 aisles, we have 9; even a more typical mushroom would have yielded at least 7 aisles.  It gives you a lot of bang for the buck.

Mushroom study references

Mark Lestico's layout is terrific, but it is a level layout that simulates a climbing railroad with scenery. Very different from mushroom style layouts that must, by definition, include some climbing to get one deck above the other (unless the decks are independent and unconnected physically, which is also possible). If one is really interested in understanding the Mushroom concept, study will reap dividends.

Joe Fugate's articles in the January and February 1997 issues of Model Railroader are a great source. Another very interesting article on the topic is Henry Freeman's article on the late Jerry Bellina's mushroom style plan in Model Railroad Planning 2003. John Armstong's design for Otis McGee's SP Shasta Route in the April 2005 MR may also be helpful.

These articles are probably most instructive about mushroom style layouts in longer and narrower spaces. John Armstrong's earlier mushroom-style layouts are also interesting, but are set in "square-ish" spaces (and look more like the classic "mushroom" shape that inspired the name).

I see now

Fire Marshalls and the Nolix

I wonder what the fire marshall would have to say about such a closely packed mammoth of a mouse-nest design...

Nice work!!

I did some dabbling with mushroom design.  The nice part is you can use the areas under the intermediate floor for storage for the first floor, for things like bookcases, totes, and other storage.

The pain is getting up form one level to the next.  my personal goal is no helixes.  The nice aprt of the mushroom design is that I was able to get the upper deck to come down 6" below the deck level before starting into the grade module, and then the lower module could prodive an additional 12" of rise towards that upper level, the combined effort reducing the necessary grade dissapation of the grade module by 18"! 

My best work thus far yielded a rather long grade Module of sorts that alone fit into a space 9'x18' or so - that's with 30-36" curves and only one crossing of one line over the other.  Still, that's a lot of space!!

Safety First

The owner of the property was a volunteer fireman and had the whole brigade out to see the place.  There were no concerns raised over the layout, since it was considered a private club.  If we were a public display there would have been other requirements, no doubt.  We've also had insurance inspectors out and the only concern there was that one wanted a fireproof shield mounted over a wood burning stove since the wall angled over top of it a bit.  No problem.  We use over-code wiring and installed a second floor fire escape, plus exit signs and emergency lights, none of which were required by any authorities so far.

And it's been called a rabbit warren before, but never a mouse nest...

Inpressed

I visited you club web site and I am very impressed.  A LOT of planning and designing went into this complex layout.  Maximization of vertical space is incredibly.  I see from the photos that the sides of the K-Span/Quonset hut are insolated, but how is the facilities to heat and cool?  With all the corridors and levels is it difficult to move air around?  

heating/cooling

Thanks for the kind words.  We still have a long way to go, but progress is being made.

We have a central geothermal heating system installed.  There are a couple of ducts running the length of the building at ground and ceiling level, plus a big return air vent by the utility room.  There are no doors in the building, so the air can circulate down the passageways without too much trouble.  We still have a lot of aisles and ceilings to install, so it remains to be seen how that will affect air flow, but more ducts can be installed if necessary.  Since the geothermal system was installed, the temperature has been very easy to control and it is comfortable all year round anywhere in the building.

can you apply it to a linear walk around with multiple peninsula

 I think the best way to think of it is to view it as "inside the layout" and "outside the layout" with one being taller than the other. As the route twists and turn the "inside" and the "outside" remain on their respective side of the backdrop and their respective levels.  The biggest problem from my viewpoint is designing bench work to support these two independent but dependent "sides" at their proper level, with a secondary problem being building a second level of floor for the higher side of the route. I can see the mushroom being a great way to maximize a layout's length of run or number of design elements  in a smaller than desired space but also a lot more work and dedication than a single level or even a conventional double level layout....DaveBranum

Watch the different floor heights

My layout is what I call a modified mushroom design.  The big difference is that my floor heights remain the same.  My mushroom design has the familiar "one level faces one direction and the one above the other" concept but I have kept my floors at the same height.  I was afraid of people not looking and tripping on the raised up floor sections.  You also need to be careful about headroom issues where the floors step up or down.  I was visiting a layout once and stepped up on a raised floor section, without looking up first, and saw stars when I crashed my 6 foot tall head into a lowered beam overhead.  Careful planning needs to be done with a mushroom design and sectional drawings needs to be thoughtfully completed to make sure it all works before you build it.

Double Mushroom

On my N scale layout , I didn't set out to build a mushroom but kind of "fell" into it by replicating the prototype in the space I had available.  [For anyone interested the Columbia & Western is described in MRP 2012]. Primarily it is a double deck layout with what I call a "double mushroom" in the middle...inside the mushroom are two decks and there is at third, middle deck facing outwards around the outside.  A sectional diagram in the MRP article is probably the clearest here.

YMMV

you do need headroom

I had considered a mushroom design for my upcoming home layout.  Unfortunately, the ceiling is only about 7 feet high in the basement, so there was no point in elevating the floor at all, so I chose not to do that.  It's still possible to split the levels down the center so that one side is visible from one aisle and the the other from the other side, though I'm not sure it will be useful in my case.  I'm thinking about making the top of the peninsula accessible from both sides, and splitting the lower level down the middle.

Headroom and mushrooms

My basement ceiling is 7'-7" (91") and I have a 15" raised floor. That leaves 76" from floor to ceiling and I am 6'-3" (75"). I have 1" of clearance over the top of my head on my layout, so I clearly designed the layout just for me.

I know I am on the tall side, so I knew 99% of the others who might frequent my layout would be my height or less, so I could get away with this. I personally don't even notice the close ceiling because I focus on the trains almost exclusively when operating.

However, my very first op session ever, I had a 6'-5" visiting operator - so much for best-laid-plans and all that! For some reason, the 6'-5" operator liked running on the lower deck better than the upper deck. Doing a hunchback of Notre Dame imitation on the upper deck did not become him ... (grin)

So it's possible to "push it" as to headroom on the upper deck. For me, the fact I focus on the trains means I never notice the low ceiling that much, so it has proved to be an excellent compromise.