ChrisNH

I am currently in the process of building a 3x5 test layout. The givens reflect things that I wanted to cover to prepare myself for the next layout. In some cases, I did things in a way less suitable for a small layout in order to prepare myself for the next layout.

Givens:

  • N-Scale
  • 11" minimum radius with easements (16" on next layout)
  • Utilize existing track
  •     -Peco code 55 flex track
  •     -Peco small radius turnouts
  •     -Kato plate girder bridge
  • L-girder benchwork, facia, and valence
  • A "scenic" scene to practice water, trees, and other scenic techniques
  • A "town" scene to practice structures, roads, and trackwork
  • Staging
  • Sincere track plan

Druthers

  • Good operating potential to explore car cards
  • DCC controlled turnouts to explore use of JMRI control planels
  • Leverage existing locomotives (B&M, MEC)
  • Northern New England theme, preferably NH.
  • Signalling and train detection potential for future test bed of electronic projects
  • Components mounted in a way to promote future reuse.

After some research I decided to base my layout on Whitefield, NH.

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?200310262259575126.jpg

This location features an interchange between the Boston and Maine and the Maine Central railroad. The layout is divided into two scenes. One scene features Whitefield with an added "non-prototype" spur to feature a team track and a few industries. This allows me to have a variety of potential destinations for any local stopping to work Whitefield.

The other scene features a bridge crossing over the Johns river

http://photos.nerail.org/showpic/?2003110714511910953.jpg

Additionally, the transition between scenes will feature a cut for practicing rock work and so I can play with the "see the train through the trees" which I always think makes such great model photographs.

The plan below was done with XtrkCAD whose only failing is not being able to create fixed length easements. I want to make my easement length based on the maximum car length. I worked around it but it was a pain.

Clockwise is "south" or "Inward" in B&M speak. It heads to Woodsville/Wells River. Counterclockwise is "north" or "Outward" toward Groveton and Berlin NH. The MEC crossing the B&M heads toward St Johnsbury to the left and back over the White Mountains to Portland, ME to the right. 

Following are several pictures showing my progress to this point.

This pic shows my completed benchwork and trackwork. I am very pleased with the L-girder benchwork. I highly recommend it for any but portable layouts. I have made two larger benchwork sections for the larger layout I put off to build this one and they went together nicely.Recently I took one apart (the other is serving as a lumber rack) and the use of dry wall screws made it a breeze to take down and stack up for later assembly.

For electricals, I am using a 14 ga. bus with 22 ga feeders to four electrical blocks. These will become detection sections when I get to the "fooling around with completely over the top electronics" part of my test layout. The Turnouts are controlled by digitrax DS44 and Tortoise switch machines. I had them already so there was no new cost, and they will let me play around with computer dispatching down the line.

 Rather then cassette storage I originally planned for the staging, I instead built a drop leaf. It was quick and easy. Ironically, I have never actually needed it.. the lead to the drop leaf has been more then enough for the short trains my layout demands.

This is my backdrop. It needs improvement, I will go for a more 3d effect on my next layout by making the clouds smaller near the bottom and the hills hazier. I had worked on a temp board for a while and did a better job with the effect. When I went to do the layout I found that when I scaled up the clouds I also lost some of my effect. I decided to "move forward" since I was almost out of sky blue paint.

The facia and valence are complete except spackle and paint. The right hand picture is a non-flash exposure to show how the lighting looks. I am using 20Watt 6000K bulbs, one at each end of each side more due to the way the framing is then out of a great desire to position them that way. Seems to work out ok. My next layout will have less facia. This is a little 'thick". I have some paint thats a "close enough" of pullman green that will get splashed on after I spackle and prime.

I am currently working on scenery (finally!) and will post up more as I make progress! I am also hoping to scratch build that ball signal..

Regards,

Chris

References:

XtrkCAD: http://www.xtrkcad.org/Wikka/HomePage

New England Rail Photos: http://photos.nerail.org/

"How To Build Model Railroad Benchwork", Linn Wescott

 

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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joef

Excellent jounal entry!

Chris:

Excellent journal enty! Do keep us informed on your progress. You're doing a great job with your test bed layout - what you're doing is exactly what I did in the decade before I started my large HO Siskiyou Line.

I'm very glad I did the test bed layouts first before embarking on a huge basement empire. I highly recommend this approach for honing your skills and insights before you try a much larger project!

Joe Fugate​
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

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bear creek

Nice job on that benchwork.

Nice job on that benchwork. Not using the sheet-of-plywood approach will pay big dividends in terms of the varied terrain you'll be able to model. I'm looking forward to seeing more of your project!

Regards,

Charlie Comstock

Superintendent of nearly everything  ayco_hdr.jpg 

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bkempins

Very impressive

Chris,

The benchwork, valance and fascia are very well executed. Not what I expected when I opened your blog entitled, "a practice layout." Keep up the good work.

I suggest getting rid of the clouds and going with the haze as you discussed. When painting backdrops, I tend to make the distant mountains relatively flat. The reason is that while "sharp" mountain peaks may look good head- on, they get foreshortened when viewed at an angle. This makes them look too sharp and unnatural. This is really noticeable in photos.  In your layout's case, you might be able to go with a poster print of an actual scene, since the backdrop is not too large.

 

BCK

 

Bernard Kempinski


 
Personal Layout Blog: http://usmrr.blogspot.com/
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ChrisNH

Thanks for the comments

Thanks.. I am a big fan of the layouts I have seen which do a sort of museum box effect. I want to do that on the next layout so it was natural for me to try on this one. I am curious how strong the masonite facia will be after plaster goes in.

I agree about the hills being a bit sharp, even for northern New Hampshire. I took them from a photograph of Whitefield in a MRP article by Paul Dolkos about modeling interchanges that had a unique angle. The problem I had was the backdrop is relatively short, I didnt want the hills to wrap into the curve, and I wanted them to be high enough to peek over the foreground scenery. The effect was less then ideal and I am hoping for better results on the next layout.

The clouds came about because my wife called me a "coward" (she actually used a less polite word..) for not trying. I think if I do them again I will keep them low on the horizon and smaller. The big clouds near the top don't work as I had hoped.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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ChrisNH

Thanks!

Thanks Joe, I am looking forward to applying some of your scenery techniques and posting those back up here. I like the look and feel of the site so this felt like a natural place to start gathering what I had been posting about here and there..

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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ChrisNH

Thanks

It has already, I can't imagine trying to model New Hampshire/Vermont on a flat board. Plus, its made wiring easier, uses less lumber, and easy to put together. Getting a miter saw for my birthday last year helped too. The only down side is it can be a bit of a hassle to cut the roadbed out. I am going to look into trying spline roadbed on the next one, at least for parts.

As it happens, your Bear Creek has been a significant influence on me. I remember those photos from an earlier version of the layout where you got all those trees and the train was sort of lost in the forest. I am going to try to create a similar effect, scaled back for eastern new-growth forest.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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bear creek

The clouds came about because

The clouds came about because my wife called me a "coward" (she actually used a less polite word..) for not trying. I think if I do them again I will keep them low on the horizon and smaller. The big clouds near the top don't work as I had hoped.

Chris


Chris,

While some are able to do really great, detailed cloud formations, I've found that indistinct clouds work the best for me. Even when viewed from along the plane of the backdrop their lack of shape makes them easier on my eye s (and imagination). Here's an example:

I made these using an airbrush (spraying an airbrush acrylic white for artists - a lot cheaper than PolyScale! Ventilation is an issue though - no solvent based paints)

 

 

Regards,

Charlie

Superintendent of nearly everything  ayco_hdr.jpg 

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ChrisNH

Nice photo

That looks nice. I also like the lower hills peaking between the trees. I probably didnt need to make mine as tall to get over the top of my structures. I sometimes forget how small my N stuff is. I think that photo makes a good case for the effectiveness of just some haze. I will show it to my wife so she doesn't mock me for no clouds..

I did actually use craft acrylic white.. both to produce haze per Joe's scenery video and to produce clouds using a method from David Popp's "Building a Model Railroad Step by Step". I have picked up a wide variety of craft paints on sale here and there, mostly Createx. I have thinned with either washer fluid or some liquitex airbrush medium I got cheap on eBay. For the occasions when I need something that provides a little better cover and adhesion I have picked up some jars of Tamiya paint from the local wargame shop. I always wear a cartridge respirator my wife got me when I spray. I probably should wear it when I go into the wargame shop when they are running a game.. gets dangerously ripe in there.

I want to build a spray booth before winter.. but need to come up with some cash for a nice squirrel cage blower.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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bear creek

Cloud stencils

I have a friend, Pete Vassler of Canyon Creek Scenics, who uses stencils to make clouds. Here's an example of some of them (he's a real artist/craftsman in everything he does - not just tree-making!).

 

Regards,

Charlie Comstock

Superintendent of nearly everything  ayco_hdr.jpg 

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ChrisNH

Cloud stencils a good idea..

I saw cloud stencils advertised.. maybe it was there since I have visited them a few times to look at their trees. I wish they sold materials to make trees rather then just hand-made trees. It seems like a nice idea and very effective in that picture. Probably easy enough to make oneself by printing a cloud photo onto some cardstock and cutting it out..

The real key to the background in the photo seems to be feathering the color which was a challenge for me, stencil or no.. I wish I had two airbrushes so I can work with the grey and the white at the same time. I do keep meaning to pick up another paasche-H on ebay.

Anyway, super photo! Very effective. One of my peeves with my N locos is a lack of ditch lights which are so much of the visual interest of modern railroading.. seeing the New Hampshire Northcoast blast through Dover on a foggy night with only the three lights on the front visible until it roars by is exciting stuff.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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feldman718

Ditch lights

Most of my locomotives don't have ditch lights either. But my Kato SD-70 and SD80MACs do. The problem is they look to be to large for the scale. But I won't complain. There was a time when even that wasn't possible and it wasn't all that long ago either.

Irv

 

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lawrence

Very nice looking layout

Very nice looking layout there Chris.  Could you tell me how you created your roads, they look very effective in the picture.  Perhaps you could also tell me roughly how wide would a 2 lane road be in N.

Many thanks and keep up the good work

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ChrisNH

Not me!

I think the pic you are referring to is Charlie's pic from his Bear Creek..

http://s145079212.onlinehome.us/rr/index.shtml

I have not reached that stage on my little railroad yet.

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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ChrisNH

I hope to see the Kato ditch

I hope to see the Kato ditch lights soon. As my wife observed, sometimes an off proportion feature is more jarring then if it is missing entirely.. but I am optimistic! Lights keep getting smaller and smaller..

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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lawrence

Sorry Chris, you are quite

Sorry Chris, you are quite correct, still trying to get faliliar with the layout on here.

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MEC573

Nice layout. I really like

Nice layout. I really like the benchwork. I'm getting ready to start a new Maine Central, Boston & Maine, Bangor & Aroostook inspired layout in HO, and I'm gonna try L-Girder for the first time (Just because I'm incorporating a double Helix, so I figured it would be easier to integrate with L-Girder). Good to see a fellow New England railfan here. Seeing as your a New Hampshire man, you might be interested to know that MEC 573 (old designation) is Conway Scenic 573. Anyways, Can't wait to see your scenery work.

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ChrisNH

You will like L-Girder

I think you will find that once you start putting it together, L-girder works very nicely and is somewhat forgiving of less the perfect carpentry. The only down side, if it is a down side, is that you really have to do a facia.

I can't wait to see my scenery work too! I have been delayed as I add a paint rack to my work bench in an attempt to get things under control. That will be in my next blog post once I get a picture of it.

I hope you post some pics of your layout!

Chris

“If you carry your childhood with you, you never become older.”           My modest progress Blog

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bandmfan1970

Groveton B&M

Hello there, GREAT work on the practice layout of the Groveton yard and facilities....Having spent a LARGE amount playing there as my uncle lived in the PINK house across from the mill...I am about to start another layout modeling East Deerfield to Groveton circa 1970-1980

Hope this site is still monitored 

Kevin in Denver

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