SUPER TREES Questions

Rio Grande Dan's picture

Joe or anybody that has used Super Trees.

I just received 2 ea of their 1/4 Bushel boxes of super Trees and rolling around in the boxes were thousands of little tiny black seeds and I noticed there were still alot of these seeds on the little trees. I took all the loose seed and put them in a germination planter terrarium to see if they will grow. has anybody ever tried this? are these seeds good or will these seeds grow in to Super Trees? Or am I the first to try this?Since I live in a colder climate then I may have a chance

If growing these works I'm hopeing to grow a 1/8 acre garden of them and selling only to active members of MRH at a much reduced rate like shipping cost + $5.00 a 1/4 bushel thats $20.00 1/4 bushel under whats charged by inporters. SO keep your fingers crossed Members. If it doesn't work at least I can say I tried.

Dan

Re: Super Trees Questions

I wish you success at germinating the Super Trees seeds you found at the bottom of your boxes. But sprouting them and selling them to others at a greatly reduced price generates some thoughts on my part. Super Trees prices are set where they are because the producers require the money to pay wages, overhead, taxes and all the other expenses demanded of them to operate a legitimate business here in the US. When others who already have good jobs imitate a business like Super Trees in their spare time and greatly undersell them because they are only doing it for fun or for some extra under the table hobby cash, it hurts. It hurts because it is not true competition. If you can somehow add something to your trees to make them more desirable and then set up a legitimate business and sell them at a fair price, go for it. But I don't support merely copying the Super Trees business just to give your pals a good deal. If your pals, like people here at MRH, can afford the noble hobby of model railroading, they can afford a few bundles of Super Trees and will survive without the great price break you are planning to offer. 

My other thought is that if these seeds are imported from somewhere else and they take off in your garden, it is possible that they may become invasive and destroy the balance of flora in your region. You may want to be on the safe side and check with your county extension service before planting.  

 

 

 

Super Trees

I rather doubt that the seeds are going to grow and produce the "Supertrees" bush but if that is the case, I will buy SuperTrees from the best source available.

If Dan can grow and supply the bush, (which I believe is native to a Skandanavian country), in his backyard I see no reason to deny him the opportunity to compete in whatever way he sees fit to do so.  If his competition threatens another business then that is the way things go and more power to him!

Since the bush is not native to North America, I doubt it will flourish here.  In the event that it gets introduced in this way and wipes out the natural flora in Dans area...I wouldn't want to be in Dans shoes when the authorities come calling!

 

marcoperforar's picture

Wow

This feat could be comparable to the illegal taking of pistachio seeds from Iran!  Now, California produces lots of the nuts.  What a coup that was!

Mark Pierce

Rio Grande Dan's picture

I'm not planning to go in

I'm not planning to go in business. Second if they were illegal to grow in this country the U.S. Department of Aquaculture wouldn't allow the seed into the country or the plant for that matter. The plants are an off breed of American sage just a dwarf version. besides there is a 80% chance the plants & seeds were Microwaved and are dead. As far as over taking the agriculture in this state they are being grown in a green house. well actually 5 green houses  if they do grow.  selling them to just a few members for shipping plus $5.00 a bushel will just cover the cost of growing them and then I only plan to sell what  I I dont use if they will even grow. Oh I forgot to say I have grown Flowers for nurseries for years or I use to so there is nothing growing in the green houses right except one 8 inch terrarium with 200 seeds. After the first season if they grow I'll renew my growers sales license so it will be legal. I'll also get permission from Joe and MRH to offer them  to members only until they run out. For now all they amount to is a box of wet dirt with seed in it. That pretty much why I asked if anybody else had tried growing them. with my luck they will grow and turn back in to California sage.

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

dfandrews's picture

off-breed FYI

I believe that the reason that the plant is similar to "American" sage, is that the sage is actually "Russian Thistle", an import that is a noxious weed in most areas of the U.S.

Don

Rincon Pacific Rwy, 1960.  HO scale std. gauge - interchange with SP.

DCC-NCE, CMRI, JMRI

Rio Grande Dan's picture

Not relaited to Russian Thistle

The Super trees are a miniature growth of Western Sage and are not in the Thistle family

Russian Thistle is a growth that grows all across the southwest of the U.S.A. we call it Tumble weed and the only thing Noxious is the smoke when you burn it. If you have ever had to clear Tumble weeds the only problem you get from the dried bush is the thousands of little tiny thorns that like to cling to the surface of everything like your clothing and skin the thorns are in fact their seed pods trying to plant themselves. Even though they do act somewhat like the American tumble weed in that when they come into seed they break loose of their main ground root and then let the wind blow them across the tundra dropping their seeds as they roll.

Dan

                 Rio Grande Dan

dfandrews's picture

Corrected

I stand corrected.  Thanks for the info, Dan.

 

Don

Rincon Pacific Rwy, 1960.  HO scale std. gauge - interchange with SP.

DCC-NCE, CMRI, JMRI

Ole Smokey's picture

Actually, Down here in the

Actually, Down here in the southwest, Its called climbing blaze and it is not tumble weed but a russian plant that was interduced to stop the tumble weed from getting blown around all the airbases...By the way...Bad idea bringing them to this country as they have almost taken over the southern areas of Arizona and are choking out most other normal species . The stuff takes over all the roots and kills our Catus and other trees out here. Everything else dies and it continues to keep green and growing. Thats our wonderful government at action...screwing around with mother nature...again.

N scale..The Normal Scale

Sweet water lumber R.R. Co.


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