Car Shop: Securing Coupler Box Lids

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Securing coupler box lids - MRH Feb 2012

 

 

 

 

 

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Bluesssman's picture

Great article with simple

Great article with simple solutions!! Thanks...

Gary

 

Gary

Head of clean up, repairs and nurturing of the eccentric owner

UMMM....

This was written about months ago in a competitive print mag.

I've been using my jigs for a couple months now.

Bruce Petrarca's picture

Just What I needed!

I've been pushing our club to use screws to hold the Athearn coupler lids on.

Now, I don't have to re-invent the wheel or teach. Just print it out and give it to the Superintendent!

Thanks.

Bruce Petrarca, DCC Impulses columnist

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kcsphil1's picture

If only one was available for N scale

then I'd be all set . . . indecision

Philip H. Chief Everything Officer Baton Rouge Southern Railroad, Mount Rainier Div.

UPWilly's picture

Not a problem for my N scale.

I use Micro-Trains 1015 coupler kits - the mounting screw passes thru the box, including the lid and so the lid can't fall off.

Bill

N Scale (1:160), not N Gauge. DC (analog), Stapleton PWM Throttle.

Proto-freelance Southwest U.S. 2nd half 20th Century.

Keep on trackin'

 

 

Joe Brugger's picture

Hmmm

All a search turns up is a mention and some photos on a board that requires a cash subscription to view. Glad the tool is working for you.

Also good for those upside-down coupler boxes

This is a great tool set and really helps with worn out clip-on covers.  This tool also works great for those impossible to remove and change Athearn coupler boxes that are upside down and require the frame to be removed from the car body.  Some of the blue-box cabooses come to mind.  Just cut off the existing box, clean up the cut and then use this tool to drill and tap a (longer than shown here) screw through the coupler box to the car body.   

Subscription = yes

Yes, I PAY to subscribe to the "other" publication. I read and enjoy it as much as MRH.

True, there was only a short write-up in the mag, but there was a video "how - to" in the (yes) paid subscription area.

I don't mind paying for that subscription. My few dollars buy me enjoyment and information, and also help employ hundreds of my fellow citizens. I'm not so cheap that I'll complain about that.

If there were hundreds of paid employees at MRH supporting their families, I'd pay to read it, too. But there aren't.

And yes, the jigs work terrific! This was a well written and photographed how-to.

One thing I would ad is after the hole is drilled, I very lightly sand the post to remove any burrs from drilling. This is also a good time to clean up and polish any burrs in the box and add some coupler lube. I use the Kadee graphite in a tube.

bear creek's picture

Oh, wait ...

You mean I get paid to work, write, and photograph trains all day long?

Charlie

 Contributing Editor, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

skiloff's picture

Hundreds?

You mean that MR has hundreds of paid employees? Not sure how a model train magazine with roughly 150,000 circulation could support hundreds of employees. They must make an awful lot in ad revenue. OK, I'm being a bit facetious. Kalmbach overall has a few hundred employees, but they publish a lot of books and 16 monthly magazines and according to the stat I found, have about $50-$100M in annual revenues. MR is a very small piece of that pie.

Dave


Working on the N Scale chainsaw
N Scale '70s/80s era
HO Scale "Collector" '70s/80s era
GMT-6

I have the A-line Bulls Eys set.

I haven't got my work area cleaned out to have space to do modeling work, yet.  One thing that occurred to me is that some brands of rolling stock (Con Cor, I think) use rather large plastic pins to hold the trucks on the car.  These pins will tend to loosen and fall out after a while.  I have used #6 machine screws to replace the pins in the past.  I've also heard of people filling the large holes with styrene rod and drilling and taping for 2-56 screws.  I'm wondering if the pins could be glued into the holes sans the head, and the Bulls Eye tools used to drill and tap the pins for #2-56 screws.  When I get my work bench cleared and start modeling again, I'll have to try it.

joef's picture

MR staff size versus MRH

I estimate MR's full time paid staff size is about a dozen or so. MRH has 10, but we're mostly part time. We'd do more if we could afford to do more ... it's hard to compete directly with a firm that has 5 or 6 times your staffing in terms of hours invested each day. Their ads also cost about 12x what we charge.

Joe Fugate
Publisher, Model Railroad Hobbyist magazine

Joe Fugate's HO Siskiyou Line

Anyone Notice What Was Missing?

Did anyone else notice that the article never mentioned that this is an Athearn specific tool? No, the single caption mentioning an Athearn coupler box as an example doesn't count. wink

 

 

Joe Brugger's picture

Maybe

Informal testing here at Model Railroad Hobbyist global headquarters shows the jigs are also useful on Walthers and Con-Cor kits. It doesn't fit well on an Eastern Car Works or an Accurail kit. The utility of the tool is certainly not limited to Athearn cars. I didn't have a Tyco or Roundhouse kit handy.

That's Good To Know

Good know that it works on some other brands. A-Line seems to sell it as an Athearn specific tool. 

That Other Mag also reviewed it as Athearn specific.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Joe Brugger's picture

No guarantee

To clarify, the A-Line instruction sheet says its tool is designed for Athearn metal clip coupler box repair -- these are the couplers found on the "blue box" kits.

Athearn has been consistent in these coupler boxes over the years, which makes claiming compatibility safe ground for A-Line. 

In theory, a tool that fit an NMRA-recommended  coupler box [http://www.nmra.org/standards/sandrp/rp22.html] would be useful on every manufacturer's rolling stock. This is a recommended practice for compatibility, not a standard.

In looking at the NMRA RP, I'm not sure the exact diameter of the coupler pivot post is called out.

In practice, manufacturers choose their own coupler box designs -- some have a straight post, some are shouldered, some follow NMRA RP22, some are smaller and compatible with exact scale couplers, and some are just plain different. I expect most model railroaders have installed Kadee couplers and found them to be either tight or loose on the center pivot in some cars.

Some boxes are too deep, allowing couplers to sag, but that's a different problem.

 

rtw3rd's picture

Charlie - should you be paying?

Charlie,

With a sweet job of writing about and photographing trains all day shouldn't you be paying MRH for the privilege?wink

Rick

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